Research F1 Physics: Basics & Beyond

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The discussion revolves around the physics involved in Formula One (F1) racing, exploring various concepts and phenomena related to the sport. Participants suggest topics ranging from basic principles to more complex ideas, including forces, aerodynamics, and vehicle dynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in identifying physics concepts related to F1 beyond centripetal force.
  • Another participant confirms the focus on Formula One motorsports.
  • The Doppler effect is proposed as a relevant topic, particularly in relation to the sound of F1 cars.
  • A suggestion is made to narrow down the broad topic of F1 physics to a more specific aim.
  • Discussion includes the extreme g-forces experienced during turns and the evolution of racing technology.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of aerodynamics, tire development, and suspension in achieving high downforce.
  • Additional ideas include simple kinematics, tire temperature effects due to friction, and the design of cars to generate significant downward force.
  • Participants express fascination with the potential for cars to run on upside-down tracks due to downforce capabilities.

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Participants present multiple competing views and ideas regarding the physics of F1, with no consensus reached on specific topics or areas of focus.

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Some discussions may lack specific definitions or assumptions, and the exploration of topics remains broad without delving into detailed mathematical or technical aspects.

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Readers interested in the physics of motorsports, aerodynamics, vehicle dynamics, and the technical aspects of racing may find this discussion relevant.

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I need to do some research on the physics of F1, and it can't be too complicated.
I've already got centripetal force, but can't think of any more at the moment :S

Help please?
 
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are you talkin about the Formula One motorsports competiton?
 
The doppler effect would be a good subject with F1.
 
Physics of F1 is a bit broad. Could you narrow that down to a more specific aim.

And Turv I like how you got the doppler effect in there. I would have never thought of that, but it is the thing people think about when you ask them to make the noise of a grand prix car. NEEEEEEEEEOWWWWWWWWW!
 
There was a show in either discovery or history channel about exactly this. The g-forces around turns and such are completely insane.
 
i don't have access to my notes but a few things to ponder regarding F1. This is the highest level of racing. It has evolved over time and is the classic Rules versus car owner ingenutiy. the previous posts are addressing cornering as far as the most popular topic. engine development is another big part but don't think we need to go into 22,000 RPM ear splitting detail in thispost. the insane cornering Gs are mainly due to lots of Aero stuffm tire deveolpment, and ultra trick suspension..there is so much down force available on these cars tha ttheoretically they could drive upside down on the ceiling...so recommend you start looking at the Aero aspect
 
some other ideas:

-simple kinematics, acceleration times, things like that
-softening of the tires due to temperatures caused by friciton
-the way the cars are designed to give massive downward force (kind of like an opposite wing)
 
The downforces are amazing. These cars could literally run on the ceiling if the track was built upside down.
 
very cool...someone needs to build a track that starts normally and then curls upside down so I can see this in action.
 

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