Resistance and resistivity problem

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the resistance of aluminum wire at elevated temperatures, specifically at 600 degrees Celsius. The original poster is attempting to understand how to convert resistivity values into resistance without additional information about the wire's dimensions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between resistivity and resistance, considering the formula R = ρ(L/A) and questioning how to apply it without knowing the wire's length and cross-sectional area. Some suggest using arbitrary values for length and area to explore the problem further.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes various interpretations of how resistivity changes with temperature and its effect on resistance. Some participants offer insights into proportional relationships, while others express confusion about specific calculations and assumptions. There is no explicit consensus on the method to arrive at the final resistance value.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original resistance at 20 degrees Celsius is given, and there is a mention of a quiz context, which may impose constraints on the information available for solving the problem.

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Hey I had a question on my quiz where it asked for the Resistance of aluminum at 600 deg C. But the formula rho-rho(i) = rho(i)a(T-T(i)) only finds the value of the resistivity at 600 deg C how do I convert it to resistance without more given info?


Question: A spool of aluminum wire has a resistance of 634 at 20o C. Find the resistance of the spool at 600o C

Alum = (rho(i)= 2.75x10^-8), (alpha = 4.4x10^-3)

My work
rho = (2.75x10^-8*4.4x10^-3*580)+(2.75x10^-8)

rho = (9.768x10^-8)

So I need to convert the resistivity to resistance from here but I just don't see how.
 
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Assuming nothing else about the dimensions of the wire changed then it's just a ratio question.
You could pick an arbitrary length and CSA and work out the resistance and then the resistance change but it would just cancel out.
 
Sorry but I didnt fully understand what you were trying to tell me. I know R = rho(L/A), So if I pick an arbitrary length say 10m. How do I find that A of the wire, and furthermore what's canceling out? Confused!
 
BTW the answer is 2250 ohms. Like I said originally it was a quiz online I just took. But how do I arrive at that answer??
 
The reel has a certain length and area an a resistance of 634R if the resistivity doubles then the resistance of that piece must also double.
If the resistivity is proportional to the temperature then you just have to fin the c change in temperature and so the proportional change in resitivity and resistance.

Imagine an analogy, if you ha a block that weight 1kg and the density doubles then the new block weighs 2kg - whatever the size is.
 
The thrilling conclusion to my problem:


rho = rho(i)alpha(T-T(i)) + rho(i)
R = rho(L/A)

Find R.

{(L/A)} * {rho} = {(L/A)} * {rho(i)alpha(T-T(i)) + rho(i)}

which equals

R = R(i)alpha(T-T(i)) + R(i)

2250 ohms = 634(4.4x10^-3)580 + 634
 

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