Reversing Order of Integration for Double Integral Problem

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The discussion revolves around a double integral problem, specifically focusing on the reversal of the order of integration. Participants are exploring the correct limits and anti-derivatives involved in the integration process.

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  • Participants discuss various limits of integration and the appropriate anti-derivatives for the integrand. There is an exploration of the implications of reversing the order of integration and the challenges associated with certain anti-derivatives.

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Some participants have offered guidance on the correct anti-derivative for the integrand, while others suggest reconsidering the limits of integration. There appears to be a productive exploration of different approaches, though no explicit consensus has been reached.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the treatment of functions in the context of integration, with references to common mistakes in calculus. The discussion also hints at reliance on computational tools for assistance with the integration process.

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My idea was that the limits are
BrQKm.png


and that the anti-derivative of dy was

xlog(1+y^2)

but that seems wrong...

maybe use these limits instead
YKvJd.png


and start with dx?

gives us
rDFwG.png


then we take dy

rgKWx.png


guess, i figured it out eventually with the help of wolfram with the last integration
 
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The reason your 1st attempt didn't work is that [tex]\int\frac{1}{1+y^2}\,dy=\tan^{-1}(y)+C\,.[/tex]
 
emelie_earl said:
8yv6i.png








My idea was that the limits are
BrQKm.png


and that the anti-derivative of dy was

xlog(1+y^2)

but that seems wrong...
Yes, it is wrong. It is standard "Calculus I" mistake to treat a function of the variable as if it were just the variable but you should be past that by the time you are doing multiple integrals. "[itex]1/(1+ y^2)[/itex]" is NOT the same as [itex]1/y[/itex] and its anti-derivative is not a logarithm. The anti-derivative of [itex]1/(1+ y^2)[/itex] is [itex]arctan(y)+ C[/itex]. That's a standard anti-derivative that you should have memorized.

maybe use these limits instead


YKvJd.png


and start with dx?

gives us
rDFwG.png


then we take dy

rgKWx.png


guess, i figured it out eventually with the help of wolfram with the last integration
Yes, reversing the order of integration is the best way to handle this one. Integerating [itex]arctan(1)- arctan(x^2)= \pi/4- arctan(x^2)[/itex] is likely to be very difficult!
 
HallsofIvy said:
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Yes, reversing the order of integration is the best way to handle this one. Integerating [itex]arctan(1)- arctan(x^2)= \pi/4- arctan(x^2)[/itex] is likely to be very difficult!
Yes. I agree !
 

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