Reversing Taifu QB70 single phase AC motor

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around how to reverse the direction of a Taifu QB70 single-phase AC motor for use in a gate opener project. Participants explore various methods to achieve this reversal, including wiring configurations and switch types, while also addressing concerns about the motor's operation in reverse.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes attempts to reverse the motor's direction by changing capacitor positions and lead connections, but these attempts were unsuccessful.
  • Another participant explains that the direction of a single-phase induction motor is determined by which active line has the series capacitor connected.
  • A participant reports success in reversing the motor's direction but notes unusual sounds when operating in reverse, raising concerns about potential damage.
  • Instructions are provided for measuring resistance between motor terminals to verify proper connections and winding resistance.
  • Questions arise about the type of switch needed to facilitate the motor's directional flow, with suggestions for using a two-pole, two-position switch or a DPDT switch to achieve this.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods for reversing the motor's direction and the types of switches that can be used, but there is uncertainty regarding the implications of running the motor in reverse, particularly concerning potential damage.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the motor's stiffness and rust, which may affect its performance. There are also unresolved questions about the motor's sound when operated in reverse and its long-term viability in that mode.

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Individuals interested in motor control, DIY projects involving AC motors, or those seeking to understand the operation of single-phase induction motors may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello Guys,

I got a Taifu QB70 water pump. But no more in use, I wish to use this motor in a gate opener project of mine.

However I cannot figure out how to make the motor rotate in a reverse direction.

What I tried ?

1. I reversed the position of the capacitor thinking it would provide reverse initial torque, in vain.
2. I reversed the intake leads of the motor(keeping capacitor leads intact), in vain again.
3. Changed the leads randomly (hoping it doesn't blows off LOL)... but in vain

THE MOTOR CONTINUES TO ROTATE IN A SINGLE DIRECTION.

Can someone help me making this motor work reversely (as well as forward also of course), use of external circuit with button or series of buttons is acceptable.
 
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A single phase induction motor with a phase shifting capacitor usually has three terminals connecting to two separate windings. One terminal is common to the two windings, that connects to neutral. The other two wires connect to the active, but one has the capacitor in series. The motor direction is determined by which of the two active lines has the series capacitor.
 
@Baluncore ... Thanks a lot for the instructions. I got the motor rotating both sides now.

However, On rotating forward (its original direction) it makes a light humming sound, something as "VMMMMMMmmmmmmm"

But on getting it to work the reverse direction it makes a rather odd sound, something as "BRRRRRrrrrrrrr" (LOL).


I want to know it it would be anyhow destructive to use the motor in the reverse direction ?
NOTE: For my gate opener project i would need it to run backwards (pulling the gate) for about 30 to 40 seconds.
 
With the motor disconnected from the power and capacitor, use a multimeter to measure the resistance between pairs of the three wires. Two of the values should sum to the third. The highest value will be between the two active outer ends.

Are the two windings of the same resistance?
Check that you have the middle wire connected to neutral.

What does the motor sound like when it is turned by hand in either direction?
 
Hi @Baluncore, when turned by hand (in either direction) the motor does not make any sound, only feels a bit stiff (may be because the motor is a bit rusty).
 
Which switch allows this kind of flow ?

Guys can somebody tell me what kind of switch I can use to accomplish the flow depicted in the attachement (Reverse.png) ?
 

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You have drawn a cross-over switch. Use a two pole, two position switch.

But to reverse a motor you only need to use a single two position switch.
Connect the capacitor between the two active terminals. Then distribute the active power to one side of the capacitor to go forwards or the other side to go backwards.
 

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Might this be what you are needing? One DPDT switch can reverse the way the two input wires connect to the pair of motor wires.

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