Review Q #6 (Projectile Motion)

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves projectile motion, specifically calculating the optimal angle of takeoff for a track athlete who jumps a distance of 8.8 meters with an initial speed of 10.2 m/s. The objective is to determine the angle with respect to the horizontal that maximizes the jump distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the angle of takeoff and the range of the jump, questioning how to maximize the distance given the initial speed. Some explore the use of trigonometric identities and equations related to projectile motion.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the relationship between the angle and the range of the jump. Some participants suggest that the angle should be 45 degrees for maximum distance, while others are clarifying the implications of the sine function in this context. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to derive the angle mathematically.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of the problem statement, including the given initial speed and jump distance. There is a focus on maximizing the range, and assumptions about the conditions of the jump are being examined.

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Homework Statement


A track athlete leaves the ground with initial speed 10.2 m/s and makes an 8.8 meter long jump. Calculate the most likely angle of the direction of his take off with respect to the horizontal.

Vo = 10.2 m/s
x = 8.8 m
xo = 0 m
Ao = ?

Homework Equations


x=Vo * CosAo * t
Vx = VoCosAo

The Attempt at a Solution


I have a missing t (time) variable or I'm using the wrong formula(s)?
 
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Here you have to calculate a maximum. . Most probably the athlete jumped so that the distance was maximal. I would take the maximal height of the jump to be given and maximize with respect to the distance.
 
R= [Vo^2 * sin2Ao] / g
where R = range = x = 8.8m

8 = [(10.2^2)*sin2Ao]/ 9.8m/s

8/9.8 = 10.2^2 *sin2Ao

[8/9.8]/(10.2^2) = sin2Ao

(sin2Ao = 2sinAocosAo ?)

[(8/9.8)/(10.2^2)]/2 = sinAoCosAo ?

Um...I don't know what to do from there...?

or if h was the given maximum height...
8 = [(10.2^2)sinAo] / 2(9.8)
[8/2(9.8)] = (10.2^2)sinAo
[8/19.6]/(10.2^2) = sinAo
sin-1[8/19.6]/(10.2^2) = Ao
.0039231 = Ao.

Errr...error?
 
Yes. Thats the range of the projectile. So this has to be maximal. Now R is given, Vo is given, g is given, hence the only thing that can change is Ao the angle of the jump.
So we need sin(2Ao)= maximal. we know that the max of sin is 1. Hence sin(2Ao)=1.

Now at what angle does this occur?
 
R= [Vo^2 * sin2Ao] / g
was the key to solving this problem then?
R = range of projectile = maximal = 8.
sin(2Ao) = maximal and will never be greater than 1 so it has to be = 1 which is 90 degrees or 2 * 45 degrees ?

Could you explain that a little more?
 
Yes that's it. Exactly.
The athlete tries to jump, so that his/her (his in this case as female athletes usually don't jump above 7.5 :)) range is maximal. Now we have an expression for the range as a function of the velocity and the angle. We know that the jump was 8m, we also somehow know that the velocity was 10.2. Since we know that the range was maximal, and we know the velocity, we only have to figure out at what angle this could have happened.
And that is the sine should be 1. Which means that the angle of the jump is 45 degrees.
Its actually a good thing to remember that when you throw something (stone or anything messing around) the best is to throw it at a 45 degree angle with the horizontal because then it will go the furthest.
 
OOO! I understand now!
That should have been a no-brainer :|

Thanks Thaakisfox! Problem solved!
 

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