Reynolds number of washing machine like object

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The discussion revolves around determining the Reynolds number for a closed pipe that spins like a washing machine. Participants explore the appropriate characteristic length to use in this context and how it relates to the flow regime (laminar or turbulent). The conversation touches on theoretical considerations and practical implications of flow dynamics in unusual scenarios.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the characteristic length for calculating the Reynolds number should be the diameter of the pipe and seeks clarification on the reasoning behind this choice.
  • Another participant suggests that the choice of length scale depends on the specific physics being studied, indicating that different scenarios may warrant different approaches.
  • There is a comparison made to Couette flow, with a participant pondering the implications of choosing the radius versus the diameter in the context of flow velocity being zero at the center.
  • A participant expresses a desire to understand how to select an appropriate characteristic length for simulations, noting the computational challenges faced when simulating high-velocity flows.
  • Some participants propose that testing both laminar and turbulent flow in simulations could be a viable approach, although one expresses a preference for understanding the selection process better before proceeding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach for determining the Reynolds number or the appropriate characteristic length. Multiple viewpoints are presented, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal method for these calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of choosing a characteristic length based on the specific flow conditions and the physics involved, indicating that assumptions and definitions may vary based on the scenario being analyzed.

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What would the reynolds number be for a closed pipe spinning like a washing machine? would the characteristic length be the diameter... if so why. Everything I have read is so vauge on this. How can I determine it for strange situations?

Can I skip it and figure out if flow is laminar or turbulent some other way?
 
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fahraynk said:
What would the reynolds number be for a closed pipe spinning like a washing machine? would the characteristic length be the diameter... if so why. Everything I have read is so vauge on this. How can I determine it for strange situations?

Can I skip it and figure out if flow is laminar or turbulent some other way?
Depends. Agitator or Spin cycle? Whites, Permanent Press, or Delicates?
 
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The diameter would be one length scale you could pick. It really depends on the physics you hope to study, though. Choosing the length scale for calculating the Reynolds number is all about choosing one that is appropriate to the physics you are trying to describe.
 
boneh3ad said:
The diameter would be one length scale you could pick. It really depends on the physics you hope to study, though. Choosing the length scale for calculating the Reynolds number is all about choosing one that is appropriate to the physics you are trying to describe.
Well, sort of like a couette flow with a outer and inner cylinder but just remove the inner cylinder...
What would be the difference in this case between choosing the radius (since the velocity should be 0 in the center?) and choosing the diameter?

I was thinking it would be similar to a couette flow with 2 moving plates going in opposite directions?
Can you recommend something that will help me learn what I should consider when choosing a characteristic length? How did you get the hang of it?

I guess the only reason I need this is to know if I should do a sim in turbulent or laminar flow... I could just try it in both and see. .. but id rather learn how to choose. Plus a simulation could take all day. I tried running a simulation for regular 2d couette flow and once I went over 20 meters/sec the time to solve went up from 10 seconds to 3 hours and growing so fast...
 

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