Rolls Theorem (trig functions)

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The discussion revolves around applying Rolle's Theorem to the function f(x) = sin(5x) over the interval [π/5, 2π/5]. Participants are focused on finding the point c where the derivative f'(x) = 0, particularly in the context of trigonometric functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the derivative f'(x) = 5cos(5x) and the subsequent equation cos(5x) = 0. There is an exploration of the values of x that satisfy this equation, with some confusion regarding the correct angles and their relation to the domain of the problem.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify their understanding of the trigonometric identities and the implications of the cosine function being zero. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between angles and their corresponding cosine values, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to isolate x.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion about the inverse cosine function and its application in this context. Participants are also grappling with the implications of the periodic nature of the cosine function and how it relates to the specific interval given in the problem.

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Homework Statement


f(x) = sin5x ; [π/5,2π/5] finding the point c which f'(x) =0. I understand the theorem and how to complete it, my issue is using the triq functions

Homework Equations


f'(x) = 5cos5x

The Attempt at a Solution


5cos5x=0
cos5x=0
5x=π/3
x=π/15
my answer is not correct, I am using mathlab and I cannot see how they came to their answer

Edit: Mathlab answer is 3π/10
 
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cos5x=0
5x=π/2 or 3π/2
x=π/10 or 3π/10
x=π/10 is not in domain so answer is 3π/10
 
Thank you for the reply, I am obviously doing something wrong between;
cos5x=0
and
5x= π/2 or 3π/2 ( i understand where you get 3π/2, just another revolution from π/2)
what i don't understand is how you got π/2, I was under the impression that you take the inverse of cosine from each side of the equation to isolate x on the left hand side. Furthermore, I was told that finding the inverse of the cosine function is π/3, because that gives you 1/2. I think I was just given some back information on how to solve that portion of the problem.
 
Jonathan_Kyle said:
Thank you for the reply, I am obviously doing something wrong between;
cos5x=0
and
5x= π/2 or 3π/2 ( i understand where you get 3π/2, just another revolution from π/2)
Not quite. Remember, 1 revolution = 2π radians, so it's a half revolution.

what i don't understand is how you got π/2, I was under the impression that you take the inverse of cosine from each side of the equation to isolate x on the left hand side. Furthermore, I was told that finding the inverse of the cosine function is π/3, because that gives you 1/2. I think I was just given some back information on how to solve that portion of the problem.

If you were trying to find θ such that cos θ = 0, what would be the value of θ in this case? For what angles is the cosine zero?

You can use the unit circle to figure this out, and you should have memorized where sin θ = 0, cos θ = 0, tan θ = 1, etc.
 

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