Rope ascension using stored spring energy

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of using stored spring energy for rope ascension, specifically through a capacitive approach or mechanical springs. The Atlas rope ascender is referenced, highlighting the potential for a system that recharges over time. Key specifications discussed include the need for a power output of approximately 600 watts at a minimum for lifting 350 lbs at 5 ft/s, with calculations revealing that 3.18 HP or 2370 watts is necessary for this task. The consensus indicates that achieving these power requirements with current technology may not be feasible.

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Just looked at a video of the atlas rope ascender (google it) and thought it was pretty cool. However, I feel as though using a more "capacitive" approach and taking advantage of the fact that ascensions would not occur frequently could allow for the use of a system that slowly recharges over time, either using capacitors or stored mechanical energy (springs). Unless I am missing something, I imagine capacitors would require large DC motors still. Going to a small, light system, are there any torsion springs that can store large amounts of continuous energy, possibly put some in series or parallel. Essentially, like a huge watch spring able to output ~500-1500 watts for a few seconds.

Some target specs:
350 lbs at 5 ft/s ~ 300 watts, but this seems questionably low to me. If this is right, at 50% efficiency, I imagine 600 watts would be an absolute minimum.

Shooting for 50 feet, 10 seconds * 300 watts = 3 kJ of energy. Is this even ballpark feasible?
 
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jgeating said:
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Some target specs:
350 lbs at 5 ft/s ~ 300 watts, but this seems questionably low to me. If this is right, at 50% efficiency, I imagine 600 watts would be an absolute minimum.

Shooting for 50 feet, 10 seconds * 300 watts = 3 kJ of energy. Is this even ballpark feasible?

jgeating,

Your power conversion is incorrect:

1 HP = 550 ft*lbf/s
1 HP = 746 watts

350 lbf at 5 ft/s
= 1750 ft*lbf/s
= 3.18 HP
= 2370 watts
 
yeah, that did seam really low, and I did it really quickly. After doing a little more research, it really just doesn't seem that feasible.
 

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