Rotational doubt (also momentum)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mechanics of elastic collisions, specifically focusing on a scenario where a ball collides with a stick at a point other than its center of mass. Participants explore the applicability of the coefficient of restitution (COR) and the conservation of kinetic energy in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the coefficient of restitution can be assumed to be one in the case of an elastic collision where the ball does not strike the stick at its center of mass.
  • Another participant asserts that, by definition, an elastic collision conserves total kinetic energy.
  • There is confusion regarding the use of the coefficient of restitution, with one participant suggesting it cannot be zero in this scenario, while another clarifies that it should be one.
  • A later reply suggests that instead of focusing on the coefficient of restitution, one could apply the conservation laws of linear momentum, angular momentum, and kinetic energy directly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of the coefficient of restitution in this collision scenario, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the collision dynamics, particularly concerning the rotational effects and the definitions of the coefficient of restitution in non-central collisions.

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If a ball collides elastically with a stick at a point other than its centre of mass, then can we use coefficient of restitution is one or do we have to use initial kinetic energy = final kinetic energy??

If we can't use "coefficient of restitution is one" then why?
 
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According to the definition of an elastic collision, the total kinetic energy is conserved.
 
so u r telling that we can't use coefficient of restitution as zero in this case??
 
iitjee10 said:
so u r telling that we can't use coefficient of restitution as zero in this case??
You must mean one instead of zero.
The COF will not be one if either object starts to rotate.
 
Yeah i meant 1
then what will be COR??
 
Why not forget about COR and just apply conservation of linear momentum, angular momentum, and kinetic energy.
 

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