Rotational motion and an incline

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The problem involves a bowling ball rolling up an inclined plane, specifically determining the height it reaches based on its initial speed and the relationship between kinetic and potential energy.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between translational and rotational kinetic energy, questioning the initial equation used for energy conservation. There are attempts to derive the height using different expressions for kinetic energy, including the moment of inertia for a solid sphere.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with multiple interpretations of the kinetic energy equations being explored. Some participants have provided alternative calculations for height based on different assumptions about the bowling ball's motion. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem statement and are questioning the validity of the equations used, particularly regarding the moment of inertia and its impact on the kinetic energy calculations.

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Hello, I have a problem that I have not been able to solve

Homework Statement


Here is the problem question:

A bowling ball rolling at 8 m/s begins to move up an inclined plane. What height does it reach?


Homework Equations



The equation that I used was the formula relating potential energy to kinetic energy. In the book it showed how the translational equivalent of kinetic energy related to angular kinetic energy. The equivalent of kinetic angular energy is (3/4)mv^2 while potential energy is mgh, with m is mass, g is gravity and h is height.



The Attempt at a Solution



take:

mgh = (3/4)mv^2

h = (3/4)(v^2/g)


The value for h I got is 4.90m
 
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Oh and the books answer is 4.57m.
 
I think that (3/4)mv^2 is incorrect. Figure it out..
KE = KE(tranwslational) + KE(rotational)

KE(translational is (1/2)mv^2 , now go figure the KE(rotational) using the moment of inertia of a solid sphere.
 
So the Kinetic energy for any rotating object depends on it's Moment of Inertia? Taking the moment of inertia of a solid sphere and combining it with the value for translational KE, I get (9/10)MV^2 for the KE of a rolling bowling ball and soling for h in mgh = (9/10)mv^2, the value is 5.88m.
 
The moment of inertia of a solid sphere about its COM is 0.4MR2

In general the kinetic energy of a body is nothing but the summation of the kinetic energy of its constituent particles.
This sum can be broken into two parts for extended bodies-
(i)The kinetic energy of the COM
(ii)The rotational kinetic energy about the COM
This energy depends on the work done by all the forces on the body and its initial kinetic energy.
(Work Energy Theorem)
 
I get .7MR^2 for the combined KE of the rolling sphere.
I for a sphere is .4mR^2
 
Strontium90 said:
So the Kinetic energy for any rotating object depends on it's Moment of Inertia? Taking the moment of inertia of a solid sphere and combining it with the value for translational KE, I get (9/10)MV^2 for the KE of a rolling bowling ball and soling for h in mgh = (9/10)mv^2, the value is 5.88m.
I'm guessing you forgot the 1/2 in (1/2)Iω2.
 

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