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If I have a sample consisting of n measurements why is the sample variance the result of dividing by n-1 instead of n?
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The discussion centers around the rationale for using n-1 instead of n in the calculation of sample variance. Participants explore the implications of this choice in terms of unbiased estimators, degrees of freedom, and the relationship between sample statistics and population parameters. The conversation includes theoretical explanations and personal reflections on understanding the concept.
Participants generally agree on the importance of using n-1 for unbiased estimation, but there remains uncertainty about the underlying reasons and implications. Multiple competing views exist regarding the clarity and sufficiency of existing explanations.
Some participants note limitations in the explanations provided by textbooks, particularly regarding the concept of degrees of freedom and the relationship between sample and population statistics. There is also mention of unresolved mathematical steps in proving the unbiased nature of the sample variance.
This discussion may be useful for students and practitioners in statistics, particularly those grappling with the concept of sample variance and its estimation properties.
jackiefrost said:If I have a sample consisting of n measurements why is the sample variance the result of dividing by n-1 instead of n?
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maverick280857 said:Well, if you have (n-1) then the expectation of the so defined sample variance exactly equals the population variance.
Tedjn said:I have had the same problem understanding this issue. Frequently, textbooks and online websites gloss over the issue with a pithy and unsatisfactory statement about degrees of freedom, leaving me to wonder whether the real explanation has anything to do with degrees of freedom at all.
Tedjn said:Why is this, or is division by n-1 just a better estimator than division by n in the finite case. If so, why?