Santa is far more advanced than us

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The discussion revolves around the scientific feasibility of Santa Claus delivering presents on Christmas Eve, prompted by a ScienceDaily article that suggests he uses advanced technology. Participants express skepticism about the article's seriousness, with some humorously dismissing the idea of Santa's existence. A detailed analysis is presented, highlighting several scientific challenges to Santa's legendary journey, including the impossibility of flying reindeer, the enormous speed required to visit millions of homes in a short time, and the immense weight of the sleigh's payload. Calculations suggest that if Santa were real, the physical demands on him and his reindeer would be catastrophic, leading to the conclusion that he could not survive such a journey. The conversation also touches on the broader implications of mythical figures like Santa and the Easter Bunny, with some participants playfully lamenting the debunking of these childhood beliefs.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091205233544.htmSanta skeptics have long considered St. Nick's ability to deliver toys to the world's good girls and boys on Christmas Eve a scientific impossibility. But new research shows that Santa is able to make his appointed rounds through the pioneering use of cutting-edge science and technology.
 
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This just shows how shoddy ScienceDaily is.
 
Pinu7 said:
This just shows how shoddy ScienceDaily is.

This article was written on December 24. I don't think it was meant to be taken seriously.
 
ideasrule said:
This article was written on December 24. I don't think it was meant to be taken seriously.
:-p Ya think?

It's funny, I'm adding it to my "if santa ever did live, he's dead now" file.
 
What do you mean Santa is dead. . .?
 
MotoH said:
What do you mean Santa is dead. . .?
{{{wraps arms around motoH}}} Of course he's not dead, he's Santa.


Is there a Santa Claus? - a physicist view

Consider the following:

1) No known species of reindeer can fly. But there are 300,000 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are insects and germs, this does not COMPLETELY rule out flying reindeer which only Santa has ever seen.

2) There are 2 billion children (persons under 18) in the world. BUT since Santa doesn't (appear) to handle the Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Buddhist children, that reduces the workload to 15% of the total - 378 million according to Population Reference Bureau. At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that's 91.8 million homes. One presumes there's at least one good child in each.

3) Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical).

This works out to 822.6 visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household with good children, Santa has 1/1000th of a second to park, hop out of the sleigh, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get back into the sleigh and move on to the next house.

Assuming that each of these 91.8 million stops are evenly distributed around the Earth (which, of course, we know to be false but for the purposes of our calculations we will accept), we are now talking about .78 miles per household, a total trip of 75-1/2 million miles, not counting stops to do what most of us must do at least once every 31 hours, plus feeding and etc.

This means that Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second, 3,000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man- made vehicle on earth, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second - a conventional reindeer can run, tops, 15 miles per hour.

4) The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized lego set (2 pounds), the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably described as overweight.

On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting that 'flying reindeer' (see point #1) could pull TEN TIMES the normal amount, we cannot do the job with eight, or even nine.

We need 214,200 reindeer. This increases the payload - not even counting the weight of the sleigh - to 353,430 tons. Again, for comparison - this is four times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth.

5) 353,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance - this will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as spacecraft re-entering the Earth's atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer will absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy. Per second. Each.

In short, they will burst into flame almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them, and create deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second.

Santa, meanwhile, will be subjected to centrifugal forces 17,500.06 times greater than gravity. A 250-pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force.> In conclusion - If Santa ever DID deliver presents on Christmas Eve, he's dead now.

(NOTE: This appeared in the SPY Magazine (January, 1990) )
 
Not cool Evo. . . Not cool!

Next you are going to say the Easter Bunny isn't real either, aren't you?
 
MotoH said:
Not cool Evo. . . Not cool!

Next you are going to say the Easter Bunny isn't real either, aren't you?
:redface: Uhm, yeah. :eek:
 
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