SAT/ GCSE-Level Recurrence Relation Problem

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The discussion centers around solving a recurrence relation problem involving the sequence defined by u1 = 1, u2 = 3, and un = 2un-1 + un-2. The initial attempts to calculate the terms resulted in incorrect values for u3 and u4, leading to confusion. The correct calculations show that u3 equals 7 and u4 equals 17, confirming the sequence's expected values. A clarification was provided regarding the substitution of values for the recurrence relation, emphasizing the correct indexing of n-1 and n-2. Overall, the interaction highlights the importance of correctly applying recurrence relations in sequence problems.
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Hi! This is my first time on the site. I look forward to working with everyone…but hopefully not too much, assuming I‘m learning things correctly. :P

My question pertains to Recurrence Relations, so here it goes…

Foreword: The textbook I’m using actually supplies the answer to the question, so I already have a point of reference, but my attempt does not match up with the answers. I believe my approach is essentially correct, as it has yielded the correct answers for a similar question beforehand. Answer is: 1, 3, 7, 17, 41

Please note that I am beginning the question from u3, as we already have the values for u1 and u2.


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Q. Find the first five terms of the sequence:

u1 = 1, u2 = 3 and un = 2un-1 + un-2


The Attempt at a Solution



Attempt:

Solve un+1 where un = 3un-1 - un-2
=> 3u(n+1)-1 - u(n+1)-2

Begin by substituting 3 (i.e. u2) for un:
If n = 1 then u3 = 2((3+1) - 1) + ((3+1) -2) => 2(4-1) + (4-2) => 6 + 2
Ans.: u3 = 8... but should be 7!

Proceeding with u3 as 7, not 8...

If n = 2 then u4 = 2((7+1) -1) + ((7+1) -2) => 2(8-1) + (8-2) => 14 + 6
Ans.: u4 = 20... But should be 17!

Note, I am omitting solution of u5 for brevity’s sake.

I‘m sure the answer is staring me in the face, but I just can’t seem to figure it out!
Can anyone help?

Thanks.
 
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Not too sure what you're going here but let's calculate u_{3} from the recurrence relation.
<br /> u_{3}=2u_{2}+u_{1}=2\times 3+1=7<br />
Working for u_{4}
<br /> u_{4}=2u_{3}+u_{2}=2\times 7+3=17<br />
 
Woah, that was easier than I was making it! Thank you.

One final question though, why is the value of u1 subbed into un-2 and u2 into un-1?
 
you're finding n=3, so n-1=2 and n-2=1.
 
Thank you very much. You've really helped me out!
 
it's why I help here.
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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