Schwarzschild coordinate time integral

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The discussion revolves around integrating a function related to Schwarzschild coordinates in the context of general relativity. Participants are exploring different methods to approach the integral involving coordinate time and the Schwarzschild radius.

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  • Participants are attempting integration by parts and substitution methods to solve the integral. There is a question about the correctness of the initial approach and a desire to understand the integration process without relying on software.

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Some participants have provided alternative expressions and methods for integration, while others are questioning the effectiveness of their current approaches. There is an ongoing exploration of different techniques without a clear consensus on the best method.

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Integrate ##c dt = -\frac{1}{\sqrt{r*}} \frac{r^{3/2} dr}{r - r*}## to find the coordinate time as opposed to the proper time of an object falling into a Schwarzschild black hole.
Relevant Equations
##t## - coordinate time
##r## - radial coordinate
##r^*## - Schwarzschild radius (constant)
I have tried integration by parts where,

##c dt = -\frac{1}{\sqrt{r*}} \frac{r^{3/2} dr}{r - r*} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{(r*)^3}} \frac{r^{3/2} dr}{1 - \Big(\sqrt{\frac{r}{r*}} \Big)^2}##

##u = r^{3/2} \quad \quad dv = \frac{dr}{1 - \Big(\sqrt{\frac{r}{r*}} \Big)^2}##

##du = \frac{3}{2} r^{1/2} dr \quad \quad v = \tanh^{-1} \Big(\sqrt{\frac{r}{r*}} \Big)##

I think this is not the correct route.
 
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\frac{c\ dt}{r_s}=\frac{x^{3/2}}{1-x}dx=[-x^{1/2}+\frac{x^{1/2}}{1-x}]dx
where ##x=\frac{r}{r_s}## and ##r_s## is Schwartzshild radius.
Integration seems easy.
 
mitochan said:
\frac{c\ dt}{r_s}=\frac{x^{3/2}}{1-x}dx=[-x^{1/2}+\frac{x^{1/2}}{1-x}]dx
where ##x=\frac{r}{r_s}## and ##r_s## is Schwartzshild radius.
Integration seems easy.

How do I integrate ##\frac{x^{1/2}}{1-x}##? I have done integration by parts but I can't find the answer.

*I could just use Mathematica but I want to learn how to deal with this kind of integral by hand.
 
How about x=u^2 dx=2u du ?
 
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