Second order differential equation.(Damped oscillation)

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The discussion revolves around solving a second-order differential equation that models a damped oscillation without external forces. Participants are working through the mathematical steps required to find the solution for the amplitude of the oscillation over time, given specific initial conditions.

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  • One participant presents the differential equation and initial conditions, outlining their approach to solving it using characteristic equations and complex roots.
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the solution provided by the first participant, expressing confusion about the initial doubts raised.
  • A third participant expresses uncertainty regarding their understanding of the solution process, noting that the question differs from examples in a reference book.
  • A fourth participant suggests verifying the solution by substituting it back into the original differential equation to check if it satisfies the equation.

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There is some agreement on the correctness of the solution, but uncertainty remains among participants regarding the understanding of the steps involved. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the clarity of the solution process.

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Participants express varying levels of confidence in their understanding of the solution, with some steps in the reasoning process remaining unclear or dependent on prior knowledge from different examples.

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Hi could do with a little help with this question please!

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A damped oscillation with no external forces can be modeled by the equation:

\frac{d^2x}{dt^2}+2\frac{dx}{dt}+2x=0

Where x mm is amplitude of the oscillation at time seconds. The initial amplitude of the oscillation is 3mm (i.e. when t=0) and the intial velocity is 5mm/s.
Solve the equation for x.

Ok! so far I have;

\frac{d^2x}{dt^2}+2\frac{dx}{dt}+2x=0

m^2+2m+2=0

\frac{-b±\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}

\frac{-2±\sqrt{2^2-4x1x2}}{2x1}

\frac{-2±\sqrt{-4}}{2}

\frac{-2}{2}±\frac{\sqrt{-4}}{2}

m=-1±j\frac{\sqrt{4}}{2}

Equating this with m=α±jβ

Gives α=-1 β=1

Substituting into the general solution (complex roots)

x=e-1t[Acos(t)+Bsin(t)]

x=3 t=0

3=e-1x0[Acos(0)+Bsin(0)]

3=A

This is the part we are unsure of!

\frac{dx}{dt}=e-1t[-Asin(t)+Bcos(t)]-1e-1t[Acos(t)+Bsin(t)]

By the product rule;

=e-1t[B-A]cos(t)-[A-B]sin(t)

x=0 \frac{dx}{dt}=5

5=e0[B-A]cos(0)-[A-B]sin(0)

5=[B-A]

We know A=3 so therefore B=8

x=e-1t[3cos(t)+8sin(t)]

Is this correct? If not any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Yes, that is correct. I'm not sure why you had any question about it.
 
Just wasn't sure. Followed it from a book from a similar question and don't fully understand it! The question was different enough to have doubts!
 
when you have the solution, you can substitute it into your differential equation to see if you end up with 0.
 

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