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The discussion revolves around seeking tutorials on amplifiers, specifically inverting amplifiers, non-inverting amplifiers, and differential amplifiers. Participants express their needs for educational resources and clarify concepts related to operational amplifiers (op-amps).

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  • One participant is looking for basic tutorials on amplifiers, indicating they are new to the topic.
  • Several participants provide links to online resources, including Google search results and specific educational websites.
  • One participant mentions the importance of understanding general rules for op-amps, such as high input impedance and low output impedance.
  • Questions arise regarding the conditions under which the voltages at the op-amp inputs are equal, with discussions on feedback and the implications of not using feedback in op-amp circuits.
  • Another participant questions whether differential operations require feedback when neither input is at ground level, reflecting on their limited experience with grounded examples.
  • Responses clarify that feedback is necessary for stable operation in op-amps, even in differential configurations.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the conditions for voltage equality at op-amp inputs and the necessity of feedback. There is no consensus on the best approach to learning about amplifiers or the specific conditions under which certain principles apply.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the application of concepts without feedback and the implications of high gain in op-amps. Limitations in their understanding are noted, particularly regarding the use of grounded terminals in examples.

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Individuals seeking foundational knowledge about amplifiers, students studying electrical engineering concepts, and those looking for resources to enhance their understanding of operational amplifiers.

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Seeking basic tutorials about amplifiers!

Hi i am looking after some good tutorial for amplifiers, and with amplifiers i mean Inverting amplifier, noe-inverting amplifier and diffrential amplifier. I should point out that i am a new about amplifiers atm.

Kindly Pellefant ...
 
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does v+ = v- under all conditions or just when the output is fedback into the + or - terminal??
 
TheAnalogKid83 said:
does v+ = v- under all conditions or just when the output is fedback into the + or - terminal??

An op-amp will drive its inputs to the same voltage when it is physically possible. The amplifier cannot produce higher voltages than those of its supplies. Also, it cannot it source more power than it is designed to source, or more than the power supplies can deliver.

If you wire up an op-amp without any feedback, it will generally just rail one way or another. An op-amp circuit without any feedback would be entirely pointless.

- Warren
 
chroot said:
An op-amp will drive its inputs to the same voltage when it is physically possible. The amplifier cannot produce higher voltages than those of its supplies. Also, it cannot it source more power than it is designed to source, or more than the power supplies can deliver.

If you wire up an op-amp without any feedback, it will generally just rail one way or another. An op-amp circuit without any feedback would be entirely pointless.

- Warren

is this because it ideally has infinite gain and its unstable with such high gain, so the feedback stabilizes it? I haven't studied opamps in a couple years, but what about a differential operation of just subtracting v- from v+, where neither one is at ground level, does this still require feedback? I think almost all of the examples I've worked on and have read in my textbook have always had one terminal grounded and it has given me a very limited idea of how to use and design circuits using opamps.
 
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TheAnalogKid83 said:
is this because it ideally has infinite gain and its unstable with such high gain, so the feedback stabilizes it? I haven't studied opamps in a couple years, but what about a differential operation of just subtracting v- from v+, where neither one is at ground level, does this still require feedback? I think almost all of the examples I've worked on and have read in my textbook have always had one terminal grounded and it has given me a very limited idea of how to use and design circuits using opamps.

Yep, difference amps still require feedback. See, e.g. http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electronic/opampvar6.html#c1

- Warren
 

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