Separability of Hilbert Spaces

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The discussion revolves around the requirement of separability of Hilbert spaces in Quantum Mechanics, exploring both theoretical implications and practical considerations. It touches on concepts related to finite and infinite dimensions, as well as the mathematical structures involved, such as Rigged Hilbert spaces.

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  • Some participants question the necessity of separability in Hilbert spaces for Quantum Mechanics, suggesting that actual observations occur in finite-dimensional spaces, albeit potentially of large but unknown dimensions.
  • One participant introduces Rigged Hilbert spaces as a framework that is separable and convergent under weak topology, emphasizing the importance of determining the appropriate subset needed for practical applications.
  • Another participant references the Stone-von Neumann theorem, which indicates that irreducible unitary realizations of canonical commutation relations are only achievable in separable spaces, highlighting a theoretical underpinning for the requirement of separability.
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Participants express differing views on the necessity and implications of separability in Hilbert spaces, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

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Why we require the separability of Hilbert spaces in Quantum Mechanics?
 
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Andre' Quanta said:
Why we require the separability of Hilbert spaces in Quantum Mechanics?

In reality any actual observation is from a finite dimensional space - but sometimes of a large but unknown dimension. To handle that a limit is taken and you end up with Rigged Hilbert spaces which are separable.

To be specific the space is of vectors of finite dimension but of any size. Mathematically we take the dual which is the Rigged Hilbert space of this space. It is separable - but convergent only under a very weak topology. Such a large space isn't actually required in practice and part of the art of using Rigged Hilbert spaces is figuring out exactly what subset is needed:
http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0502053Thanks
Bill
 
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Because of results like the Stone-von Neumann theorem. In non-relativistic QM, this theorem asserts that any irreducible unitary realization of the (integrated form of the) canonical commutation relations on a complex Hilbert space ##H## (in principle, not necessarily separable) is unitarily equivalent to the standard realization in the separable space ##L^{2}(R^{3})##, i.e., only in a separable space you can get one such irreducible unitary realizations. Similar results hold for the representation theory of the Poincaré group in relativistic QM.
 
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