Separating angular and linear momentum

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The discussion centers on the separation of angular and linear momentum in systems like an inverted pendulum, specifically regarding a rod's motion when forces are applied. It explores whether the horizontal component of linear momentum remains constant as the rod falls and how to calculate linear acceleration using force equations. The conversation also addresses the ground reaction force (GRF) acting on the rod, clarifying that it does not equal the rod's weight when leaning and that gravity does not do work in certain scenarios. Ultimately, the participants seek to understand the mechanics of running and how gravity influences the motion of a runner, particularly in relation to angular and linear acceleration. The complexities of these interactions highlight the intricate balance of forces at play in dynamic systems.
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Do I need to add more of my working to make it clearer to follow?
 
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simbil said:
Finally got around to this again and I have worked out what may be a solution.

So, following your advice to find the velocity of the centre of mass as a function of angle:

We know that the energy E is constant such that the gravitic potential and kinetic are constant so E = mgh - 0.5mv^2

Before the rod falls, v is zero and h of COM = 1m, unit mass, so,

E = g

Therefore, g = mgh - 0.5mv^2
g = gh - 0.5v^2

Height can be expressed as a function of angle as h = rcosθ = cosθ, so,

g = gcosθ - 0.5v^2

and so the velocity as a function of angle is,

v^2 = 2g - 2gcosθ

If I am correct so far, the next step is to calculate the radial acceleration = v^2/r = v^2, so,

radial a = 2g - 2gcosθ

Tangential acceleration has already been calculated for the example as 0.75gsinθ
Looks good.

Total acceleration horizontally = tangential.cosθ - radial.cosθ
Almost. The horizontal component of the radial acceleration would be -radial.sinθ.


a = 0.75gsinθcosθ - cosθ(2g - 2gcosθ)

Unit mass so applying F= ma, horizontal force = 0.75gsinθcosθ - cosθ(2g - 2gcosθ)

Putting numbers into there gives results in line with what I would expect - is it right..?
Correct the above and you've got it.

simbil said:
Do I need to add more of my working to make it clearer to follow?
Nope. Just took me a while to get around to it. :smile:
 
  • #33
Thanks Doc Al, appreciate your guidance.



horizontal force = 0.75gsinθcosθ - sinθ(2g - 2gcosθ)
 

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