Understanding U_n: Solving Series Questions with Two Summations

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The discussion revolves around understanding how to derive U_n from two summations. By subtracting the summation of U_r from n=1 to n from the summation from n=1 to n-1, U_n is isolated. For n=4, the calculations illustrate that U_4 can be determined by evaluating the difference between the two summations. Participants clarify that the expression n^2 + 4n is a general term provided in the problem. The focus is on correctly interpreting these summations to solve for U_n effectively.
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I don't understand how the part in yellow can give you U_n, I just don't see how taking the two summations away from each other would give U_n, could anyone explain it please
 
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Write it out for n=4. You'll see immediately what happens.
 
Think about it.
\Sigma^{n}_{r = 1} U_r= U_1 + U_2 + U_3 + ... + U_{n - 1} + U_n, and
\Sigma^{n - 1}_{r = 1} U_r= U_1 + U_2 + U_3 + ... + U_{n - 1}.
So what happens when you subtract the two summations:
\left( U_1 + U_2 + U_3 + ... + U_{n - 1} + U_n \right) - \left( U_1 + U_2 + U_3 + ... + U_{n - 1} \right)?EDIT: Beaten to it. :wink:
 
micromass said:
Write it out for n=4. You'll see immediately what happens.

write what out? I've substituted n = 4 and get 20 if I use what they have used for part b...
 
phospho said:
write what out? I've substituted n = 4 and get 20 if I use what they have used for part b...
I think micromass meant this:
n = 4: \Sigma^{4}_{r = 1} U_r= U_1 + U_2 + U_3 + U_4
n - 1 = 3: \Sigma^{3}_{r = 1} U_r= U_1 + U_2 + U_3
Don't plug into the expressions with the n's.
 
eumyang said:
Think about it.
\Sigma^{n}_{r = 1} U_r= U_1 + U_2 + U_3 + ... + U_{n - 1} + U_n, and
\Sigma^{n - 1}_{r = 1} U_r= U_1 + U_2 + U_3 + ... + U_{n - 1}.
So what happens when you subtract the two summations:
\left( U_1 + U_2 + U_3 + ... + U_{n - 1} + U_n \right) - \left( U_1 + U_2 + U_3 + ... + U_{n - 1} \right)?


EDIT: Beaten to it. :wink:

I see, but what is the "n^2 + 4n", is that a general term or..?
 
phospho said:
I see, but what is the "n^2 + 4n", is that a general term or..?
\Sigma^{n}_{r = 1} U_r = U_1 + U_2 + U_3 + ... + U_{n - 1} + U_n = n^2 + 4n. That was given in the problem. Notice the substitution that was made in the step after the highlighted step.
 

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