Set of points of strict increase is Borel

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The discussion revolves around a problem in measure theory, specifically regarding the set of points of strict increase for a continuous, nondecreasing function and its classification as a Borel set. The original poster attempts to prove that the set of such points is Borel and that the measure of its complement is zero.

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  • The original poster describes their approach involving rational points and neighborhoods, questioning whether their proof adequately addresses all cases, particularly regarding irrational points. Other participants inquire about the specific uncertainties in the proof and suggest that the density of rational numbers may cover the concerns raised.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the original poster's proof and addressing concerns about the completeness of the argument. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of irrational points, suggesting that they are not neglected in the proof.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about their proof's reliance on rational points and whether it adequately encompasses all necessary sets. There is a focus on the properties of the function and the implications of its continuity and nondecreasing nature.

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Hello all,

I'm thinking about the following exercise from Intro to stoch. analysis:

Let V be a continuous, nondecreasing function on \mathbb{R} and \Lambda its Lebesgue-Stieltjes measure. Say t is a point of strict increase for V if V(s) < V(t) < V(u) for all s<t and all u>t. Let I be the set of such points. Show that I is a Borel set and \Lambda(I^C) = 0.

My attempt to this exercise:
By definition, for any rational point t \in I there exists an \epsilon-neighbourhood of t containing s<t and u>t where s,u \in I. The neighbourhood, forming an open set, is Borel. Countable (due to rationality of ts) union of these neighbourhoods forms I which is Borel too.

Complement of I is hence a countable union of connected sets (say J_i, i=1,...,n) where, due to the nondecreasing property V(x) = V(y) for all x,y in particular J_i. Since \Lambda(J_i) = |V(x)-V(y)| = 0 for any connected set J_i, hence \Lambda(I^C) = \Lambda(\cup J_i) = 0.

Intuitively, I feel that my proof misses or skips something important...
 
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I have very little experience with measure theory, but from what I do know, this seems fine to me. If I might ask, where do you feel your proof is lacking? If you elaborate on this, I may be able to offer some input.
 
christoff said:
I have very little experience with measure theory, but from what I do know, this seems fine to me. If I might ask, where do you feel your proof is lacking? If you elaborate on this, I may be able to offer some input.

Thank you for your response, Christoff. My uncertainty followed from my considering only rational ts and I was unsure whether my approach doesn't neglect some sets.
 
camillio said:
Thank you for your response, Christoff. My uncertainty followed from my considering only rational ts and I was unsure whether my approach doesn't neglect some sets.

Hmm, good point. I hadn't considered that. I don't think, however, that it is too difficult to show that any irrational point of strict increase is contained in one of your \epsilon-neighbourhoods of a rational point.

eg. Let q\in I be an irrational point of strict increase. Then there exists a largest open interval (s,u) containing q with (s,u)\subset I. Since the rationals are dense, there exists a rational t\in (s,u). Since t is rational, there exists a maximal open interval (s',u') containing t, such that (s',u')\subset I. By maximality of (s',u'), we must have (s,u)\subset (s',u').

In conclusion, you don't miss any irrational points. I think that should do it.
 
Thank you Christoff :-)

Probably for the irrational points it follows directly from their property of being accumulation points of sequences of rationals.
 

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