SFD & BMD of beam with point force through distributed load

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The discussion revolves around the creation of shear force and bending moment diagrams for beams subjected to point forces and distributed loads. Participants are exploring the application of the method of sections and the correct formulation of equilibrium equations in the context of structural analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding shear force and bending moment diagrams for both cantilever and supported beams, seeking help with the equations and diagrams.
  • The participant attempts to solve for reactions at points using equilibrium equations but seems uncertain about the correctness of their approach.
  • Another participant critiques the initial equilibrium equations provided, stating that the sum of forces and moments must equal zero and that the moment equations were incorrectly formulated.
  • A later reply questions the method of taking moments about two different points and seeks clarification on calculating the moment of the distributed load.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the correct approach to formulating the equilibrium equations or constructing the diagrams. There are competing views on how to properly account for moments and forces in the analysis.

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There are unresolved issues regarding the assumptions made in the equilibrium equations and the method of calculating moments for distributed loads. The discussion reflects a lack of clarity on the correct application of the method of sections.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals studying structural analysis, particularly those grappling with the concepts of shear force and bending moment diagrams in beams.

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Hi Guys,
I'm having real difficulty trying to understand shear force and bending moment diagrams - both cantilever beams and supported ones like below. I've given it my best shot to solve the reactions at the points and would greatly appreciate any help on how to form the diagram and the equations after using method of sections.
Thanks

Homework Statement



Create SFD and BFD of following beam.

Homework Equations


Fy=0
Fx=0
M=0

The Attempt at a Solution


Ma=0
-Rb(6) +30(4.5)+[(10x4.5)/3.75]-20=0
Rb=21.2kN

Mb=0
(30)(1.5)+[(10X4.5)/2.25]-20-6Ra=0
Ra=7.5kN

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Heres my attempt at using method of sections to write the equations:
I
0<x<a
v=-7.5kN
m=-20kNM

II
0<x<0
v=-7.5kN + 10x
m=-20kNm + (10x^2)/2

III
v=-7.5 kN + 10x + 30kN - 21.2kN
m=-20kN + (10x^2)/2 + 30kN.x -21.2kN(6)

As you can probably tell I'm struggling pretty bad on this lol. Any help is appreciated!
 
You have not written the correct equilibrium equations for this beam. The sum of the forces must equal zero, and the sum of the moments, taken about a single reference point, also must equal zero. You have written moment equations about two different points. The expression for the moment of the distributed load is also incorrect. Until you calculate the reactions, you will not be able to construct the SF and BM diagrams for this beam.
 
oh ok thanks. so you're not meant to take the moment of the two points? An example i saw did it that way i think so i thought i'd give it a go. oh well, back to the drawing board!

ps. you calculate the moment of the distributed load by multiplying the magnitude by its length and then placing a point force at the middle of the distributed load, don't you? Sorry I'm struggling big time
 
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