Shear Force and Bending Diagram. Need help understanding.

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The discussion revolves around understanding shear force and bending moment diagrams in the context of a specific homework problem. Participants seek clarification on how to derive certain values and construct the diagrams correctly, focusing on the application of equilibrium equations and the interpretation of forces along a beam.

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  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster expresses confusion about the graph for the shear force and bending moment diagrams, particularly regarding the intervals for x and the derivation of expressions like (x-2) and (7-x).
  • Bob29 provides a detailed explanation of how to obtain the expressions (x - 2) and 0.5(x - 2) based on the section cut location and emphasizes the importance of including the entire structure to the left of the section cut for clarity.
  • Another participant indicates that the explanation provided by Bob29 significantly improved their understanding of the problem.
  • A later participant questions the derivation of a specific force value (2100N) mentioned in the previous workings, indicating a gap in understanding that they hope to clarify.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the derivation of the 2100N force, as the later participant seeks clarification on this point. The initial confusion about the graph and expressions indicates that multiple interpretations or approaches may exist.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in the original diagram and the need for clear representation of forces and moments across different segments of the beam. The varying methods of diagram representation may contribute to confusion.

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Homework Statement


[PLAIN]http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4476/bendingshearquestion.jpg

Homework Equations


[tex]\sum[/tex]M = 0:
[tex]\sum[/tex]Fy = 0:

The Attempt at a Solution


Revising for my finals and going over questions, and would like to understand more clearly how to get the following.

Solution is in the image.
[PLAIN]http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7237/bendingshearsolution.jpg

When 2<x<5:
I do not understand how to obtain the graph.
Shouldn't the graph be from 0<x<5, since it includes the 2m and reaction force at A?
I also do not know how to obtain the (x-2).

Same when 5<x<7:
I do not understand how to obtain the (7-x) or (9-x) in the moment equilibrium equation.

Hope someone can help.
Cheers,
 
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bob29: I drew on your diagram to show you how the (x - 2) and 0.5(x - 2) are obtained. The origin is at point A. The blue line is the section cut. The section cut is located at x, measured from the origin. The (x - 2) and 0.5(x - 2) are measured from the section cut, as I showed in the diagram.

Each diagram, such as 2 < x < 5 m, must show everything to the left-hand side of the section cut. If you omit part of the left-hand end of the beam, then you must add the force and moment at the left-hand-end section cut. Omitting part of the left-hand end of the structure perhaps makes it more confusing. And the diagram is inconsistent. Notice the first two domains in the diagram (0 < x < 2, and 2 < x < 5) show the entire structure to the left of the section cut (the blue line). But then the diagram changes its method, and omits a left-hand portion of the structure in the diagram domains 5 < x < 7, and 7 < x < 9.

You can draw the entire structure to the left-hand side of the section cut (the blue line) for each domain, if you wish. And it would make the solution more clear.
 

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Thx much easier 2 understand. Should be able to ace this question if it pops up.
 
Sorry to dig up an old thread but i had a look at the workings posted by nvn and can see how most forces etc are achieved except the force of 2100N, can someone point out what I've missed. Thanks in Advance :-)
 

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