Draw shear force and bending moment diagrams

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving the drawing of shear force and bending moment diagrams for a beam. Participants are addressing the calculation of support reactions, the drawing of free body diagrams, and the subsequent diagrams for shear force and bending moments.

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  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their approach to solving the problem, including flipping the figure to match their preferred coordinate system.
  • Another participant points out that the initial calculations for support reactions may be incorrect due to the omission of a 20 kN-m couple in the moment summation.
  • A participant acknowledges a mistake in solving a different question than intended and clarifies their reasoning for inverting the beam.
  • It is noted that if the support reactions are incorrect, the resulting shear force and bending moment diagrams will also be incorrect.
  • One suggestion is made to separate the contributions to the reactions from different loads and to verify the calculations by taking moments about unused points.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correctness of the initial calculations, particularly regarding the support reactions and the subsequent diagrams. There is no consensus on the resolution of these issues, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the clarity of calculations due to the inversion of the beam and the lack of indication for moment arm origins. There are unresolved steps in the calculations that affect the overall accuracy of the diagrams.

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Homework Statement

For the beam shown in the figure: a) Draw necessary free body diagrams

b) Calculate support reactions

c) Draw the shear force and bending moments

Homework Equations


∑Fy = 0; ∑M = 0; V(x) = ∫ L(x) ; M(x) = ∫ V(x)


The Attempt at a Solution

I reverted and flipped the figure in order to have it easier for me, as I am used to work in the most used system of coordinates. I have solved the problem, except when coming to the M(x)3, drawing the diagram of it, I should get -20 kN*m and not 0. If you can inspect the solution procedure and if you find the mistake , please give me some hints of what I have done wrong and how should I approach it
 

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Your problems start with calculating the support reactions for the beam. In your equations for the moments, it appears you did not include the 20 kN-m couple in you moment summation. It's really hard to follow your calculations because: 1.) you have inverted the beam, and 2.) you don't indicate the origin of your moment arms.

It's not clear why you inverted the beam; it makes it very hard to check your calculations and you don't seem to have obtained any simplification to finding the solution to the problem.
 
Oh, yes. So that means I am correct. But, looks like I have not solved the question I was asked, instead, I have solved another question without the moment given.

I inverted the beam in order to have the x-y system of coordinates with x positive - horizontal to the right , and y - positive vertical upwards. There is no simplification, it just fits me better solving like that. Apart for the initial silly mistake :(, there is not any other mistake is it?
 
Well, if the reactions aren't correct, then the shear force and bending moment diagrams aren't correct either.
 
It might help to get the reactions to separate out the three contributions: (i) from the moment (ii) from the udl and (iii) from the triangularly distributed load. Then add the contributions together. Finally, check your reactions by taking moments about any point you haven't yet used. If it doesn't check, then there is an error somewhere, and, as steam king says, there is no point in continuing with m and v diagrams.
 

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