Shortest Distance Homework: Find Origin to Curve x^2+2xy+y^2=150

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The problem involves finding the shortest distance from the origin to the curve defined by the equation x^2 + 2xy + y^2 = 150. The subject area pertains to calculus, specifically optimization techniques involving partial differentiation and constraints.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to begin the problem and mentions a potential use of Lagrange multipliers, questioning the lack of a constraint. Some participants suggest applying the Lagrange multiplier method to the distance squared function with the given constraint. There is also a discussion about deriving equations from the functions involved and the implications of the solutions found.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods and interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of Lagrange multipliers, and there is an acknowledgment of multiple solutions arising from the calculations. However, there is no explicit consensus on how to determine the shortest distance from the origin.

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Participants note the potential confusion regarding the application of Lagrange multipliers and the implications of the solutions derived, as well as the challenge of identifying the shortest distance among the solutions found.

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Homework Statement


Find the shortest distance from the origin to the curve [tex]x^2+2xy+y^2=150[/tex].


Homework Equations


[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}[/tex], [tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}[/tex]


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I'm not sure how to start is thus can't attempt it. I would have used the Lagrange theory but that would give the max point and I also don't have the constraint so cannot use it. For a start, can someone suggest how I would start. Any methods? I have to use partial differentiation.
 
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You can use Lagrange's multiplier method to find maxima as well as minima. Apply it to the distance squared function f(x,y)=x^2+y^2 with the constraint x^2+2xy+y^2=150.
 
I have reached a point of confusion...

[tex]f(x,y) = x^2+y^2[/tex]
[tex]g(x,y) = x^2+2xy+y^2=150[/tex]

[tex]\mathrm{Equation 1: }2x - \lambda (2x + 2y) = 0 \implies \lambda = \frac{2x}{2x+2y}[/tex]
[tex]\mathrm{Equation 2: }2y - \lambda (2x + 2y) = 0 \rightarrow 2y - \left( \frac{2x}{2x+2y}\right) (2x + 2y ) = 0 \rightarrow 2x+2y = 0 \implies y=x[/tex]

Into constraint equation to solve for value of [tex]x[/tex] and [tex]y[/tex].
[tex]\therefore y^2 + 2y^2 y^2 = 150 \implies y = \pm \sqrt{\frac{150}{4}} = x[/tex]

Which gives many solutions. How can I saw which is the shortest distance?
 
Well, you got two solutions: [tex](\sqrt{150}/2,\sqrt{150}/2)[/tex] and [tex](-\sqrt{150}/2,-\sqrt{150}/2)[/tex]. Both have the same distance from the origin, compute it and you have the answer.
 

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