Ryan_m_b said:
If you had posted succinct things like this long ago then this thread would not have needed to go on for so long. Having said that do you have any evidence of a political mandate to use the funds from ISRO to help alleviate poverty in the country?
I'd also like to point out that throughout this thread you have changed what you are talking about many times and been quite vague. This started out as a suggestion that the developing world should develop it's own independent technology, then implied some sort of inspiring project. It took several pages for this to boil down to the tangible benefits of ISRO to the Indian people.
shashankac655 said:
I had mixed feelings when the first Indian unmanned lunar mission came under sharp criticism, the most common argument was that “should a country with such a poverty rate ,malnutrition and one the lowest per capita GDP really be spending on development of such technologies that are usually done in the in developed world”?
One of my arguments is that for too long we have depended on the west for sophisticated technologies.
The developing world cannot endlessly depend on the west when it comes to science and technology .
There has to be some attempt from the developing world to do something on their own and just buying everything from the west doesn’t do anything good.
Ryan_m_b said:
If you had posted succinct things like this long ago then this thread would not have needed to go on for so long. Having said that do you have any evidence of a political mandate to use the funds from ISRO to help alleviate poverty in the country?
I'd also like to point out that throughout this thread you have changed what you are talking about many times and been quite vague. This started out as a suggestion that the developing world should develop it's own independent technology, then implied some sort of inspiring project. It took several pages for this to boil down to the tangible benefits of ISRO to the Indian people.
Firstly your suggestions for alleviating poverty itself is flawed if you read D H's post again you will know that ,you cannot remove poverty by just feeding the poor or just giving them benefits ,you have create a kind of an environment that stresses on technology and education and ISRO is doing that.
I have clearly said in my OP that ISRO deals mostly with satellite launches which are for
tangible benefits and very few people here were aware of tangible benefits that can be offered by space programs(commercialization).
And you have
very little idea about the problems of India(you cannot describe India’s problems with just one word –“POVERTY”) and how different and complicated it is compared to other developing countries or the rest of the world. India is almost like ‘the entire continent of Africa pulled together into a single country and having 20% of the world’s population and having more middle class than the entire population of the United States and more billionaires than the UK and is one of the fasted growing large economies in the world and has lifted over 300 million people out of poverty in the last 10 years and is lifting 40 million people out of poverty every year but still has more people living in poverty than the entire sub-Saharan Africa and India is one of the newly industrialized countries in the world(but still significantly agrarian) it has around six religions ,300 languages ,854 dialects ,968 political parties and India was never ONE COUNTRY since the
Mauryan empire (over 2000 years ago)until the british came and established a centralized government in the country ,there is no sense of a strong unity in the country(which is crucial for development ,even after 65 years) we still have the infamous caste system which I think is the primary reason as to why India is
not developed today .The politics is dominated by caste system and money and for most Indians, caste and religion comes before country(or nation) There is no one solution for all these problems and
nowhere have I suggested that ISRO is the answer for all the problems and nowhere have I suggested that ISRO should going to explore space(because it mostly deals with satellite launches) to the same magnitude as NASA or the ESA or any other big space faring nation.Other Asian countries got the developed nation status because their diversity and problems were nowhere near India’s.
Secondly ,i don't deny that i was quite vague , my literary skills are not good enough for expressing everything in just one post and I am not an expert debater( I have only just started ) but I think I am getting better(if not ,definitely not worse) on the top of all that ,posts like these
frustrated me and drew me mad!
shashankac655 said:
ISRO neither has the capability nor the intention to match NASA or the ESA and other big organizations anytime soon, ISRO’s ambitions and capabilities are modest compared to NASA and everything is done at lowest cost possible even then ISRO is not really so unsuccessful.
russ_watters said:
outside criticism is the least of your worries if your people are dying of The Plague because money is diverted from funding a modernized sanitation system to a pointless space program.
shashankac655 said:
You talk as if the Indian government is spending a huge portion of the GDP on space programs this nothing but baseless hype created by people who enjoy criticizing India's progress.
russ_watters said:
I didn't say that it is - the issue here is that you are suggesting it should. This is your thread! You started it by asking that question!
I would like to point out that this thread is partly a demonstration of how people in the west jump to conclusions about India’s space program without solid evidence or any knowledge at all about the country or the organization and are unwilling to read the OP properly before posting. And drakkith asked the same question and I have given him the reply, I agreed that I should have shared all that before but that is no excuse for others to come up with their own ideas about countries or their space programs with such rude posts!
I think I have said everything I wanted to say(I won’t come back to this thread again) , if I have troubled you I am sorry.
