Show a limit doesn't exists, complex case

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The discussion focuses on proving that the derivative of the function f(z) = |z| does not exist for any z in the complex plane. The user attempts to show this by evaluating the limit definition of the derivative and considers cases based on the real and imaginary components of z. They explore the Cauchy-Riemann equations but find that the necessary conditions for differentiability are not satisfied, particularly at z = 0. Ultimately, it is clarified that the derivatives do not exist at any point, including z = 0, due to the nature of the function. The conversation highlights the complexities of limits in complex analysis and the challenges faced in understanding them.
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Homework Statement



f(z) = |z|
I'm looking to show that f'(z) does not exist for any z \in ℂ.

Homework Equations



f'(z) = \lim_{z_0 → 0}{\frac{f(z) - f(z_0)}{z - z_0}}

z = x + iy = Re(z) + i Im(z)

|z| = \sqrt{x^2 + y^2}

The Attempt at a Solution


Clearly I just have to show that \lim_{z_0 → 0}{\frac{f(z) - f(z_0)}{z - z_0}} does not exist. However, I'm confused about how to do this. I'm unsure of how to show that a limit doesn't exist in complex analysis.

I tried to take the limit in two cases, when Re(z) = Re(z_0) and then again when Im(z) = Im(z_0). Is this the correct approach?
 
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Have you done the Cauchy-Riemann equations?
 
I was only trying to prove it with limits because it's an exercise in my complex analysis book that comes before the Cauchy-Riemann equations are introduced.

f(z) = U(x,y) + iV(x,y)

f(z) = |z| = |x + iy| = \sqrt{x^2 + y^2}

U(x,y) = \sqrt{x^2 + y^2}
V(x,y) = 0

U_x = 0.5(x^2 + y^2)^{-1/2}(2x) = x(x^2 + y^2)^{-1/2}
U_y = y(x^2 + y^2)^{-1/2}
V_x = 0
V_y = 0

U_x ≠ V_y
U_y ≠ -V_xHowever, does the derivative exist when

x(x^2 + y^2)^{-1/2} = 0
y(x^2 + y^2)^{-1/2} = 0

i.e. when z = 0?
 
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moxy said:
I was only trying to prove it with limits because it's an exercise in my complex analysis book that comes before the Cauchy-Riemann equations are introduced.

f(z) = U(x,y) + iV(x,y)

f(z) = |z| = |x + iy| = \sqrt{x^2 + y^2}

U(x,y) = \sqrt{x^2 + y^2}
V(x,y) = 0

U_x = 0.5(x^2 + y^2)(2x) = x(x^2 + y^2)
U_y = y(x^2 + y^2)
V_x = 0
V_y = 0

U_x ≠ V_y
U_y ≠ -V_x


However, does the derivative exist when

x(x^2 + y^2) = 0
y(x^2 + y^2) = 0

i.e. when z = 0?

U_x=x/sqrt(x^2+y^2). That's not what you wrote. And the derivatives don't exist at (x,y)=(0,0) either, for the same reason the derivative of |x| with respect to x doesn't exist at x=0.
 
Yeah, I forgot the (-1/2) exponents when I typed it out.

Okay, so z = 0 is a "potential" solution after I check the C-R equations, but then when I check it case by case, I see that the derivative doesn't exist when z = 0. Is this a correct?
 
moxy said:
Yeah, I forgot the (-1/2) exponents when I typed it out.

Okay, so z = 0 is a "potential" solution after I check the C-R equations, but then when I check it case by case, I see that the derivative doesn't exist when z = 0. Is this a correct?

Right. U_x and U_y at z=0 have the form 0/0. That doesn't tell you much. But if you look at the details, they don't exist at z=0 either.
 
Thank you! I'm still confused about limits in the complex plane and my original approach to this problem, but I'll save that for another time and another problem :) I really appreciate your help.
 

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