Show by induction that a given polynomial is an integer

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The problem involves demonstrating through mathematical induction that the expression \(\frac{n^5}{5} + \frac{n^4}{2} + \frac{n^3}{3} - \frac{n}{30}\) is an integer for all integers \(n \geq 1\). The discussion centers around the validity of this expression and the methods of induction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the inductive statement and the base case, with one participant expressing difficulty in progressing from \(Q(n)\) to \(Q(n+1)\). Others suggest comparing \(f(n)\) and \(f(n+1)\) and exploring cases based on parity. There is also mention of using modular arithmetic to analyze the expression.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches and questioning the assumptions made in their reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the comparison of \(f(n)\) and \(f(n+1)\), and one participant reports a breakthrough after receiving feedback.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the introduction of new variables and the structure of the proof. Participants are navigating the complexities of the induction process and the properties of integers.

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Homework Statement



Show with mathematical induction that [tex]\frac{n^5}{5} + \frac{n^4}{2} + \frac{n^3}{3} - \frac{n}{30} \in {Z}[/tex] for all [tex]n\ge 1[/tex].

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Probably.

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Inductive statement: [tex]Q(n)[/tex]: [tex]\frac{n^5}{5} + \frac{n^4}{2} + \frac{n^3}{3} - \frac{n}{30} \in {Z}[/tex]

[tex]Q(1)[/tex]: [tex]\frac{1}{5} + \frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{3} - \frac{1}{30} = 1 \in {Z}[/tex]

Since [tex]Q(1)[/tex] is true, assume that [tex]Q(n)[/tex] is true. Show that [tex]Q(n) \Rightarrow Q(n+1)[/tex].

[tex]Q(n+1)[/tex]: [tex]\frac{(n+1)^5}{5} + \frac{(n+1)^4}{2} + \frac{(n+1)^3}{3} - \frac{(n+1)}{30} = \frac{(n+1)(6(n+1)^4 + 15(n+1)^3 + 10(n+1)^2 - 1)}{30} = ... =<br /> <br /> \frac{6n^5 + 45n^4 + 130n^3 + 119n}{30} + 6n^2 + 1[/tex]

I'm not getting anywhere. I tried to assume that [tex]Q(n+1)[/tex] is true and to subsequently show that [tex]Q(n+1) \Rightarrow Q(n+2)[/tex]. That attempt yielded no results. I also tried to show this with modular arithmetic, but it made the induction seem redundant. Furthermore, I wasn't successful in using modular arithmetic to show the validity of [tex]Q(n+1)[/tex].

I'm just not sure how to attack this. Help will be greatly appreciated.

Also, hi. :)
 
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How have you compared f(n) against f(n+1)? (where I'm using f to denote the function in n you're studying)
 
Hurkyl said:
How have you compared f(n) against f(n+1)? (where I'm using f to denote the function in n you're studying)

In my example above: I guess I have not. I have considered to rewrite [tex]{Z}[/tex] as 2k and 2k+1 ([tex]k \in {Z}[/tex]) (or as 2n and 2n+1?) and study the two separate cases of f(n)=2n and f(n)=2n+1 (e.g. two equations rather than f(n) being defined by the corresponding R.H.S.). However, I couldn't think of a mathematically valid reason to use n as a variable, and introducing k as a new variable seems like a bad idea.

Edit: Updated a few instances of P(n) and P(n+1) to Q(n) and Q(n+1), respectively, in the original post.
 
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When all else fails, just expand and see what you get.
 
Look at f(n+1)-f(n) as Hurkyl suggested. Can you it's an integer?
 
Thanks; that worked out. Everything is so easy once you know what to do, surprisingly enough.
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