Show that P, Q and D are collinear in the vector problem

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The discussion focuses on proving that points P, Q, and D are collinear using vector equations. The user presents their calculations for parts (i) and (ii), showing relationships between vectors PB, AD, QD, and PQ. They identify a scalar relationship between PQ and QD, concluding that PQ = (2/5)QD. Corrections regarding typos and multiplicative constants in the equations are suggested, emphasizing the need for accurate representation of the relationships. The final assertion confirms the collinearity of the points based on the derived equations.
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Homework Statement
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My interest is only on part (b),

For part (i), My approach is as follows,
##PB=PO+OB##
##PB=-\dfrac{2}{5}a +b##

##AD=AO+OD##
##AD=-a+\dfrac{5}{2}b##

Therefore, ##PB=\dfrac{2}{5}AD##

For part (ii), we shall have;

##QD=QB+BD##

##QD=\dfrac{2}{7}AB+\dfrac{3}{2}b##

##QD=-\dfrac{2}{7}a+\dfrac{2}{7}b+\dfrac{3}{2}b##

##QD=\dfrac{25}{14}b-\dfrac{2}{7}a##

also,
##PQ=PA+AQ##

##PQ=\dfrac{3}{5}a-\dfrac{5}{7}a+\dfrac{5}{7}b##

##PQ=\dfrac{5}{7}b-\dfrac{4}{35}a##

Therefore,

##PQ=\dfrac{1}{7}\left[5b-\dfrac{4}{5}a\right]##
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##QD=\dfrac{1}{7}\left[\dfrac{25}{2}b-2a\right]##

It follows that,

##PQ=\dfrac{5}{7}\left[25b-4a\right]##

##QD=\dfrac{2}{7}\left[25b-4a\right]##

##OQ=\dfrac{2}{5} PQ## thus shown as there is a scalar connecting the two...seeking any alternative approach and i hope my working is correct as i do not have solutions to these questions...
 
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for (b) (i) I find it correct
for (b) (ii) there seem to be some typos after the phrase "It follows that" please correct them. For example I think it should $$\vec{PQ}=\frac{1}{5\cdot 7}[25\vec{b}-4\vec{a}]$$ and the final equation should involve PQ and QD not OQ(?)
 
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for (b) (i) I find it correct
for (b) (ii) there seem to be some typos after the phrase "It follows that" please correct them. For example I think it should $$\vec{PQ}=\frac{1}{5\cdot 7}[25b-4a]$$ and the final equation should involve PQ and QD not OQ(?)
Ok...I will check on that ...
 
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The correct final equation should be ##\vec{PQ}=\frac{2}{5}\vec{QD}##, at least that's what i think.
 
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The correct final equation should be ##\vec{PQ}=\frac{2}{5}\vec{QD}##, at least that's what i think.
That should be correct...my working is fine, but the division part at the end was wrong...
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: See attached
Relevant Equations:: Vectors

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My interest is only on part (b),

For part (i), My approach is as follows,
##PB=PO+OB##
##PB=-\dfrac{2}{5}a +b##

##AD=AO+OD##
##AD=-a+\dfrac{5}{2}b##

Therefore, ##PB=\dfrac{2}{5}AD##

For part (ii), we shall have;

##QD=QB+BD##

##QD=\dfrac{2}{7}AB+\dfrac{3}{2}b##

##QD=-\dfrac{2}{7}a+\dfrac{2}{7}b+\dfrac{3}{2}b##

##QD=\dfrac{25}{14}b-\dfrac{2}{7}a##

also,
##PQ=PA+AQ##

##PQ=\dfrac{3}{5}a-\dfrac{5}{7}a+\dfrac{5}{7}b##

##PQ=\dfrac{5}{7}b-\dfrac{4}{35}a##

Therefore,

##PQ=\dfrac{1}{7}\left[5b-\dfrac{4}{5}a\right]##
&
##QD=\dfrac{1}{7}\left[\dfrac{25}{2}b-2a\right]##

It follows that,

##PQ=\dfrac{5}{7}\left[25b-4a\right]##

##QD=\dfrac{2}{7}\left[25b-4a\right]##

##QD=\dfrac{2}{5} PQ## thus shown as there is a scalar connecting the two...seeking any alternative approach and i hope my working is correct as i do not have solutions to these questions...
Amended to ##QD##...I will amend division part later, using my android to type...
 
I find the expressions of PQ and QD wrong after the phrase "It follows that" regarding the multiplicative constant of each, please review and try to correct them.
 
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I find the expressions of PQ and QD wrong after the phrase "It follows that" regarding the multiplicative constant of each, please review and try to correct them.
Yes I will...thanks for your input...
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: See attached
Relevant Equations:: Vectors

View attachment 301993

My interest is only on part (b),

For part (i), My approach is as follows,
##PB=PO+OB##
##PB=-\dfrac{2}{5}a +b##

##AD=AO+OD##
##AD=-a+\dfrac{5}{2}b##

Therefore, ##PB=\dfrac{2}{5}AD##

For part (ii), we shall have;

##QD=QB+BD##

##QD=\dfrac{2}{7}AB+\dfrac{3}{2}b##

##QD=-\dfrac{2}{7}a+\dfrac{2}{7}b+\dfrac{3}{2}b##

##QD=\dfrac{25}{14}b-\dfrac{2}{7}a##

also,
##PQ=PA+AQ##

##PQ=\dfrac{3}{5}a-\dfrac{5}{7}a+\dfrac{5}{7}b##

##PQ=\dfrac{5}{7}b-\dfrac{4}{35}a##

Therefore,

##PQ=\dfrac{1}{7}\left[5b-\dfrac{4}{5}a\right]##
&
##QD=\dfrac{1}{7}\left[\dfrac{25}{2}b-2a\right]##

It follows that,

##PQ=\dfrac{5}{7}\left[25b-4a\right]##

##QD=\dfrac{2}{7}\left[25b-4a\right]##

##OQ=\dfrac{2}{5} PQ## thus shown as there is a scalar connecting the two...seeking any alternative approach and i hope my working is correct as i do not have solutions to these questions...
We ought to have;

It follows that,

##PQ=\dfrac{1}{35}\left[25b-4a\right]##

##QD=\dfrac{1}{14}\left[25b-4a\right]##

##35 PQ=(25b-4a)##
##14QD=(25b-4a)##

##35PQ=14QD##
##PQ=\dfrac{14}{35} QD##
##PQ=\dfrac{2}{5} QD##
 
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