Showing that an equation satisfied the helmholtz equation

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the function \(\epsilon(r)=\frac{A}{r}e^{ikr}\) satisfies the Helmholtz equation, specifically \(\nabla^{2}\epsilon(r)+k^{2}\epsilon(r)=0\). The subject area is primarily focused on vector calculus and differential equations in the context of spherical coordinates.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the appropriate form of the Laplacian operator in spherical coordinates versus Cartesian coordinates. Questions arise regarding the treatment of variables and the implications of spherical symmetry on the derivatives involved.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the correct application of the Laplacian in this context, with some participants clarifying that the Laplacian simplifies to a specific form due to the absence of angular dependence. However, no consensus has been reached on the overall approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of spherical coordinates for simplifying calculations, while also addressing potential misconceptions about the Laplacian's form in different coordinate systems. The discussion reflects a careful consideration of the assumptions underlying the problem setup.

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Homework Statement



Show that \epsilon(r)=\frac{A}{r}e^{ikr} is a solution to \nabla^{2}\epsilon(r)+k^{2}\epsilon(r)=0

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Is \nabla^{2} in this case equal to \frac{\partial^2}{\partial r^2} or \frac{\partial^2}{\partial x^2}+\frac{\partial^2}{\partial y^2}+\frac{\partial^2}{\partial z^2}?
I know that using r simplifies things rather than using x, y, z, but I am not sure if I am doing it correctly.
 
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Well, of course you need to express the 3-d Laplacian in spherical coordinates, because the calculations look simpler than in Cartesian ones.
 
but the equation only uses the vector R, not phi or theta. e is only a function of r, so wouldn't it be like saying take the derivative of this function w.r.t. r, then take the derivative of a constant with respect to theta, then the derivative of a constant with respect to phi?
 
warfreak131 said:
but the equation only uses the vector R, not phi or theta. e is only a function of r, so wouldn't it be like saying take the derivative of this function w.r.t. r, then take the derivative of a constant with respect to theta, then the derivative of a constant with respect to phi?

Yes. The Laplacian is equivalent to <br /> (\frac{\partial^2}{\partial r^2},0,0)<br /> in spherical coordinates.
 
ideasrule said:
Yes. The Laplacian is equivalent to <br /> (\frac{\partial^2}{\partial r^2},0,0)<br /> in spherical coordinates.

Because there is no \theta or \phi dependence.


Just wanted to clarify because I've seen students make the conclusion that the laplacian is always <br /> (\frac{\partial^2}{\partial r^2},0,0)<br /> after doing their first "make use of the spherical symmetry" lapacian in spherical coordinates...
 

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