Showing work is path independent

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The discussion centers on calculating the work done on a 5-kg block raised to a height of 1 m through two different paths: vertically and along a 30° incline. The key point is that work done against gravity is path independent, meaning it should yield the same result regardless of the route taken. The user initially miscalculated the work for the inclined path, leading to confusion about the results. After clarification, it was established that the correct displacement along the incline should account for the vertical height, reinforcing that the work done against gravity remains consistent at approximately 50 J for both paths. Understanding the geometry of the incline and the correct application of trigonometric functions is crucial for accurate calculations.
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1. The problem:
A 5-kg block is moved from the ground to a height of 1 m via two different routes, vertically
and along an inclined plane with angle of 30° to the horizontal. How much work is done on
the block against gravity in each case?

Homework Equations


W=Fcosθd where θ is between the displacement and force, Fg=mg


The Attempt at a Solution


I realize the answer is that the work done is the same because it is path independent, but I don't understand why I can't show this in my calculations. Any help is greatly appreciated.

For the vertical path, I did
W=Fcosθd
W=mgcos(0)(1m)
W=(5kg)(9.8m/s^2)(1)(1m) ≈ 50 J

For the inclined path I did
W=Fcosθd where the force required to move the object along the plane is =mgsin(30°) and the angle between the displacement and force would now be 60° so
W=mgsin(30°)cos(60°)(1m) ≈12.5 J
Where I get only a fourth of the work I found above. What am I doing wrong?

(I assumed there was no friction because the question only asks about the work done against gravity)
 
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hellocello said:
For the inclined path I did
W=Fcosθd where the force required to move the object along the plane is =mgsin(30°) and the angle between the displacement and force would now be 60° so
W=mgsin(30°)cos(60°)(1m) ≈12.5 J

For the inclined path, the displacement is not 1 m vertically. It's a certain distance along the incline.
 
Thank you! However wouldn't that distance be 1/tan(30) ? Because then the value I get is around 20...
 
hellocello said:
However wouldn't that distance be 1/tan(30) ?

That's not quite right. Make a right triangle with one side horizontal and the other vertical. Let the hypotenuse represent the distance along the incline, and the vertical side represent the height of 1 m.
 
Oops, it should be 1/sin(30), right? But then I'm still left with a cos(60) that doesn't cancel
 
Oh it should be cos(0)- I forgot about that when you corrected my displacement. Thanks so much for your help!
 
You're welcome. Good work!
 
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