Simple Integration by substitution

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral \(\int_0^2\frac{x}{\sqrt{4 + x^2}}dx\) using substitution, specifically letting \(u^2 = 4 + x^2\). The original poster expresses a desire to solve the integral through this method rather than an alternative approach involving trigonometric substitution.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the differentiation of \(u\) and the implications of dropping terms in the expression for \(du\). There are questions about the correct limits of integration when substituting and clarifications on the relationship between \(u\) and \(x\). Some suggest alternative substitution methods that may simplify the process.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's attempts and suggesting areas of confusion. There is acknowledgment of mistakes in the calculations, and some participants offer guidance on how to approach the substitution more carefully. The original poster indicates progress in understanding through the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the correct application of the substitution method and the handling of limits. Participants are also addressing the accuracy of the expressions used in the differentiation process.

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Homework Statement


Find by letting [tex]U^2=(4 + x^2)[/tex]the following [tex]\int_0^2\frac{x}{\sqrt{4 + x^2}}dx[/tex]?
I can solve it by letting [tex]\mbox{x=2} tan(\theta)[/tex], But I want to be able to do it by substitution.

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\frac{du}{dx}=\frac{d\sqrt{(4+x^2)}}{dx}=\frac{x}{\sqrt{4+x^2}}\mbox{, therefore du}=\frac{x}{u^\frac{1}{2}}\times dx\\[/tex] Therefore the integral is [tex]\int_{x=0}^{x=2}\frac{1}{u^\frac{1}{2}}du=[/tex]0.26757, it should be [tex]2(\sqrt{2}-1)[/tex]. Can you tell me where I went wrong. Thanks for the help.
 
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John O' Meara said:
[[tex]\frac{du}{dx}=\frac{d\sqrt{(4+x^2)}}{dx}=\frac{x}{\sqrt{4+x^2}}\mbox{, therefore du}=\frac{x}{u^\frac{1}{2}}\times dx\\[/tex]

What happened to the x in the above expression for du? Did you just drop it?
 
There is a mistake in the equation, it should be [tex]\int_0^2\frac{x}{\sqrt{4+x^2}}dx[/tex]. And the answer I then get =.5351. And thanks for the quick reply.
 
Ah, ha. Then you want to evaluate the final integral between the u limits, not the x limits.
 
John O' Meara said:
[tex]\frac{du}{dx}=\frac{d\sqrt{(4+x^2)}}{dx}=\frac{x}{\sqrt{4+x^2}}\mbox{, therefore du}=\frac{x}{u^\frac{1}{2}}\times dx\\[/tex]

And something is going awry here. A sqrt(u) would be the 4th root of 4+x^2. You are being sloppy.
 
I know there is something awry in the calculation, maybe you can find what I did wrong. Since [tex]u^2=4+x^2[/tex] that implies [tex]u=\sqrt{4+x^2}[/tex] and [tex]\frac{du}{dx}[/tex] expression follows.
 
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This shows du=(x*dx)/u. Not u^(1/2).
 
First try substituting u=4+x²⇒du=2xdx⇒(1/2)du=xdx for the substitution part
that should be a lot easier . you are still heading the right direction
(1/2)∫(1/(u^{1/2}))du= √u
I think you can take it from here
 
He can also do it with his substitution. He just needs to be more careful of exactly what that is. :smile:
 
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Thanks for the help lads I at last got it out using my substitution.
 

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