Simple Pulley Problem With Acceleration

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a system of blocks connected by a pulley, specifically focusing on the forces acting on the blocks and the calculation of mass based on acceleration and friction. The subject area includes dynamics and friction in mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the blocks, including gravitational forces and tension. There are attempts to calculate the mass of block C based on the acceleration of block B and the friction involved. Questions arise about whether all forces, particularly the gravitational forces of blocks A and C, are adequately considered in the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations and questioning the assumptions made. Some participants have noted potential oversights in accounting for the tension in the system, indicating a collaborative effort to clarify the problem setup.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a lack of relevant information in the textbook regarding pulleys, which may be contributing to confusion in the problem-solving process. Additionally, the original poster expresses frustration with their calculations, indicating a struggle with the mathematical aspects involved.

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Homework Statement


Block A in the figure has a mass of 5.00kg , and block B has mass 12.0kg . The coefficient of kinetic friction between block B and the horizontal surface is 0.25.

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What is the mass of block C if block B is moving to the right and speeding up with an acceleration 3.00m/s2 ?

Homework Equations



Friction = coefficient * normal force
F = ma

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the frictional force heading left (since block is going right). 0.25 * (12 * 9.81) = 29.43 N
The tension force on B is then just F = ma + friction force, so 12 * 3 + 29.43 = 65.43 N
And the acceleration of block C, which should also be 3 m/s2, gives the equation Ca = Cg - T, since the acceleration downwards is just gravitational force - tension force. So 3C = 9.81C - 65.43, C = 9.608kg

But this is wrong! And I don't know why :(
The textbook sucks too...pulleys aren't even so much as mentioned in the chapter we're in.

Edit: Tried accounting for A.

A is moving up at 3 m/s2.
So -3A = Ag - T
-3(5) = (9.81)(5) - T
T = 34.05 N
So then the total forces pulling left are 34.05 + 29.43 = 63.48N (A and friction). So the forces pulling right must equal that + 36 (F = (12)(3)) = 99.48N. So 3C = 9.81C - 99.48, C = 14.608kg

Still doesn't work :(
 
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding your work, but did you consider that the gravitational force of blocks A and C also act on B?
 
samnorris93 said:
the gravitational force of blocks A
Still doesn't work :(
 
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I don't see where you took into account the tension on the A side.
 
haruspex said:
I don't see where you took into account the tension on the A side.

Yeah, realized that from the other post. Edited my post above, but it still is wrong. I was so hoping it would be right too, since it made so much sense...
 
Ahhhh never mind. I'm just bad at math. :D
 

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