Simple quesion about metric on extended real line

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The discussion revolves around the validity of a proposed homeomorphism between the extended real line and the interval [0,1], specifically through the mapping defined by h(x) = cot-1(πx). Participants explore the implications of this mapping for defining a metric on the extended real line.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the mapping h is a valid homeomorphism, seeking to understand if it allows for a metric to be defined on the extended real line.
  • Another participant asserts that the topology on the extended real line is generated by the usual open sets of R and neighborhoods of infinity, and that the topology on [0,1] is similarly defined.
  • A later reply confirms that the mapping h sends generators of the topology of [0,1] to generators of the topology of the extended real line, suggesting that this supports the homeomorphism claim.
  • There is a clarification regarding the concept of a generator of the topology, with a participant asking if it refers to a base of the topology and whether a bijective mapping from one base to another suffices for establishing a homeomorphism.
  • Another participant agrees with the clarification, stating that checking continuity can be simplified to verifying it for elements of a basis of the topology.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions and implications of the topologies involved, but there is an ongoing exploration of the conditions under which the mapping h can be considered a homeomorphism. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the broader implications of this mapping.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the necessity of continuity in the context of homeomorphisms and the role of bases in topology, indicating potential limitations in understanding the full implications of the mapping.

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I was told the extended real \hat{R}=R\cup\{-\infty,\infty\} is homeomorphic to [0,1], I was wondering if the mapping
<br /> h: [0,1]\rightarrow\hat{R}, h(x)=\cot^{-1}(\pi x), 0&lt;x&lt;1, h(0)=\infty, h(1)=-\infty<br />
is a valid homeomorphism, so that a metric may be defined by the metric on [0,1]? Thank you.
 
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Yes, of course!

The topology on the extended real line is the topology generated by the usual open sets of R plus the "neigborhoods of infinity"; i.e. the sets of the form (a,+\infty] and [-\infty,b).

Similarly, the topology on [0,1] is generated by the usual open sets of (0,1) plus the sets of the form (a,1] and [0,b)

It suffices to observe that your h sends a generator of the topology of [0,1] to a generator of the topology of the extended real line, and similarly for h-1.
 
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quasar987 said:
Yes, of course!

The topology on the extended real line is the topology generated by the usual open sets of R plus the "neigborhoods of infinity"; i.e. the sets of the form (a,+\infty] and [-\infty,b).

Similarly, the topology on [0,1] is generated by the usual open sets of (0,1) plus the sets of the form (a,1] and [0,b)

It suffices to observe that your h sends a generator of the topology of [0,1] to a generator of the topology of the extended real line, and similarly for h-1.

Thank you! When you say generator of the topology, is it referring to a base of the topology? So if I had a bijective (no need to be continuous, which need not be defined) mapping h from one base (collections of open sets) to another, then h would also be a homeomorphism between the two spaces generated by the two bases?
 
Yes and yes.

More generally, to check continuity of a map f:X-->Y, it is not necessary to check that f-1(U) is open in X for all open sets in Y. It is sufficient to check it for the elements U of a basis of the topology on Y. (Easy exercice in "set theory")
 
That makes a lot of sense. Thank you.
 

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