Simplify Set Math Problem: A\cup (B\cup C - B\cap C) - A\cap (B\cup C - B\cap C)

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The discussion revolves around simplifying a set theory expression involving unions and intersections. The original poster seeks to simplify a complex expression into a more manageable form, specifically aiming for a particular structure involving sets A, B, and C.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the properties of unions and intersections, with some attempting to define intermediate sets to clarify the simplification process. Questions arise regarding the equivalence of the expressions and the nature of the operations involved.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants offer insights into the relationships between the sets, while others question the simplification process itself. There is no explicit consensus on the simplification, but several productive lines of reasoning are being developed.

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Some participants express uncertainty about foundational concepts in set theory, such as the properties of unions and intersections. There is also mention of a base space X, which introduces additional complexity to the discussion.

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I have no formal training in set theory, and I need to simplify the following:

[tex](A\cup B - A\cap B)\cup C - (A\cup B - A\cap B)\cap C[/tex]

Preferably, it should somehow end up as:

[tex]A\cup (B\cup C - B\cap C) - A\cap (B\cup C - B\cap C)[/tex]
 
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The union of A and B is the set of points in A or B or both, so subtracting off the part in both A and B leaves the part in either A or B. Call this set D. Then you do the same thing with D and C. So you want the points that are either in C or D (not both), which means they are either in A, or B, or C, but not more than one of these. Does that help at all?
 
I don't see how the second thing is a simplification of the first, but the two are the same. You could use:

(A + B + C) - (AB + BC + AC)

where + is union, and juxtaposition is intersection.
 
This is basically the XOR relation. That is,

(A xor B) xor C = A xor (B xor C) = A xor B xor C,

well familiar to those of us who design integrated circuits.

Carl
 
What are the basic properties of unions and intersections? For example, what is

[tex](A-B)\cap C[/tex]

I know how unions and intersections interact with one another, but what about the above case?
 
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We can pretend we are given a base space X containing all the sets, and then we can define a set X-B, the complement of B in X, and then this becomes:

[tex](A-B) \cap C = (A \cap (X-B))\cap C = A \cap (X-B)\cap C[/tex]

Since intersection is associative, and so you can do what you want with this:

[tex](A-B) \cap C = (C-B) \cap A = (A\cap C) -B[/tex]
 

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