MHB Simplifying radicals - Help with basic number manipulation

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The discussion focuses on simplifying the expression (sqrt6/sqrt7) * sqrt21. The correct method involves moving sqrt7 to the denominator of sqrt21, simplifying it to sqrt6 * sqrt3, which equals 3sqrt2. A participant initially made an error by incorrectly multiplying by sqrt7/sqrt7, leading to confusion in their calculations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of simplicity in mathematical operations and encourages using straightforward methods for clarity.
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Hi I'm trying to give myself a refresher in Leaving Cert maths and I'm running through some problems. Here's one which has me stumped (sorry I can't figure out how to show the actual symbols on the post, it's just showing as raw LaTEX when I try )

Combine terms and simplify the expression of -

(sqrt6/sqrt7) * sqrt21

The actual answer is that you move the /sqrt7 to the sqrt21 to end up with sqrt6 * sqrt3 = 2sqrt3

I missed this and instead multiplied the right hand term by sqrt7/sqrt7 but my answer is different. Can someone explain why my logic is incorrect?

(sqrt6/sqrt7) * ( (sqrt21*sqrt7)/sqrt7 )
sqrt6/sqrt7 * sqrt147/sqrt7
sqrt882/sqrt7
3sqrt14
 
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Hi TubeAlloy and welcome to MHB! :D

$$\dfrac{\sqrt6}{\sqrt7}\cdot\sqrt{21}=\sqrt{18}=3\sqrt2$$

TubeAlloy said:
(sqrt6/sqrt7) * ( (sqrt21*sqrt7)/sqrt7 )
sqrt6/sqrt7 * sqrt147/sqrt7
sqrt882/sqrt7
3sqrt14

Your logic is fine but you've made an error in your calculation. Can you spot it?

Quote this post to see how I coded the $\LaTeX$.
 
Oh wow I feel so silly, thanks a million for the help once I knew I wasn't doing something wrong I was able to spot the error.

$$\dfrac{\sqrt6}{\sqrt7}\cdot\dfrac{\sqrt147}{\sqrt7}$$

This is $$\dfrac{\sqrt882}{\sqrt49}$$ not $$\dfrac{\sqrt882}{\sqrt7}$$ as I had thought

So then it's $$\sqrt18$$ == $$3\sqrt2$$
 
Good work!

To get all of the numbers in a radical under the square root sign use \sqrt{123}. Note the curly braces. :)
 
TubeAlloy said:
Combine terms and simplify the expression: \frac{\sqrt{6}}{\sqrt{7}}\cdot\sqrt{21}

The actual answer is that you move the /sqrt7 to the sqrt21 to end up with sqrt6 * sqrt3 = 2sqrt3

I missed this and instead multiplied the right hand term by sqrt7/sqrt7 . Why?
but my answer is different. Can someone explain why my logic is incorrect?

(sqrt6/sqrt7) * ( (sqrt21*sqrt7)/sqrt7 )
sqrt6/sqrt7 * sqrt147/sqrt7
sqrt882/sqrt7
3sqrt14
Did some teacher tell you, "To simplify radicals,
introduce more radicals into the expression" ?

Here is the recommended way to simplify it:

. . \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> \dfrac{\sqrt{6}}{\sqrt{7}}\cdot\sqrt{21} &amp;=&amp; \sqrt{6}\cdot\dfrac{\sqrt{21}}{\sqrt{7}} \\ <br /> &amp;= &amp; \sqrt{6}\cdot\sqrt{\dfrac{21}{7}} \\ <br /> &amp; = &amp; \sqrt6\cdot\sqrt{3} \\<br /> &amp; = &amp; \sqrt{18} \\<br /> &amp;=&amp; \sqrt{9\cdot2} \\<br /> &amp;=&amp; \sqrt{9}\cdot\sqrt{2} \\<br /> &amp;=&amp; 3\sqrt{2} \end{array}


 
soroban has made an excellent point: the simpler the better! It's good to see experimentation with other methods though, and I think it's good that the error was spotted. Sometimes the simpler approach is not always realized so it's a good thing to be able to adapt one's skill set to the problem at hand. But at the end of the day, I think striving for simplicity is the best approach.
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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