Since they're too tiny for radio how would nanites communicate?

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The discussion revolves around potential communication methods for nanites, particularly focusing on whether they can utilize radio waves, microwaves, or other forms of signaling. Participants explore various theoretical approaches, including chemical communication and electromagnetic signals, within the context of nanotechnology.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the feasibility of nanites absorbing radio or microwave signals due to their size, suggesting alternative communication methods.
  • One participant references science fiction, mentioning a fictional nanite's components and their potential communication capabilities.
  • Another participant proposes that microorganisms use chemical signals for communication, which could inspire nanite communication methods.
  • Some participants argue that chemical communication may not be viable for nanites due to the complexity of enzymes required for such processes.
  • There is a suggestion that nanites could potentially fabricate antennas to receive signals, similar to how humans do not absorb radio waves directly.
  • A participant mentions the existence of a nanoscale radio receiver, indicating that such technology may already address the communication issue.
  • Concerns are raised about the complexity of designing nanites compared to enzymes, with some asserting that nanites are even more complicated to design.
  • One participant suggests that ultraviolet light could be a method for nanite communication.

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Participants express a range of views on the communication methods for nanites, with no consensus reached. Some support the idea of chemical communication, while others challenge its feasibility. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most viable communication method for nanites.

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Participants highlight various assumptions regarding the capabilities of nanites and the complexity of designing communication systems. The discussion includes references to existing technologies and theoretical concepts without resolving the underlying uncertainties.

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Hey all, firstly, sorry for my terrible phrasing and grammar in the title but I was severely limited by character count. I was wondering if there are any known methods existign that would allow nanites to communicate since they seem too small to absorb radio waves or microwaves, Any input appreciated.
 
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According to the Star Trek wiki... (I had to google it honest)...

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Nanite

A nanite was a microscopic robotic device and a form of nanotechnology. A nanite was built by manipulating atoms and contained gigabytes of computer memory. It was small enough to enter living cells and could be programmed to do numerous tasks... snip...Nanites consisted of several components with different functions. Nanites used in the 24th century are composed of a forward propulsion block, an Oneamisu receiver...

Perhaps they used their Oneamisu receiver whatever that is.

I doubt they are too small to absorb microwaves. After all if a water molecule can be heated by microwaves...
 
Superposed_Cat said:
I was wondering if there are any known methods existign that would allow nanites to communicate

Microorganisms use chemical signals.
 
DrStupid said:
Microorganisms use chemical signals.

Insects and plants (and higher organisms -- think Mr. Tomcat marking his territory ) use chemical communication too.
 
My question was based on if nanotech was to become a reality, so chemical communcation would most likely be out of the question as that requires enzymes which are too complicated to be designed by man.
 
Superposed_Cat said:
Hey all, firstly, sorry for my terrible phrasing and grammar in the title but I was severely limited by character count. I was wondering if there are any known methods existign that would allow nanites to communicate since they seem too small to absorb radio waves or microwaves, Any input appreciated.
Why can't nanites fabricate an antenna? After all, humans don't personally absorb radio waves in order to receive a signal.
 
"The nano receiver translates the electromagnetic oscillations of the radio wave into the mechanical vibrations of a nano-tube. The vibrations are then converted into a stream of electrical pulses that reproduce the original radio signal," ah never mind, someone's invented a nano scale radio receiver already
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanoradio

rendering my question moot. Thanks anyway.
 
Superposed_Cat said:
My question was based on if nanotech was to become a reality, so chemical communcation would most likely be out of the question as that requires enzymes which are too complicated to be designed by man.
Man, you've fallen behind (technologically) and you can't catch up!

Who sez enzymes are too complicated to be designed by man?

http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/enztech/engineering.html
 
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Superposed_Cat said:
that requires enzymes which are too complicated to be designed by man.

Nanites are even more complicate to design.
 
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Ah, turns out the nanotubes may only be a couple of atoms wide but they're hundreds of meters long. Not really "nano"
 
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SteamKing said:
Who sez enzymes are too complicated to be designed by man?
I'd think the issue is data transfer rate.
 

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