Sketching curves: intercepts, asymptotes, critical points [answer check]

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The discussion revolves around sketching the function y = 1/(3 + x^2), focusing on identifying intercepts, asymptotes, critical points, and points of inflection. Participants are verifying their calculations and reasoning related to derivatives and their implications for the graph of the function.

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  • The original poster attempts to find intercepts, asymptotes, and critical points, expressing uncertainty about their calculations. Some participants question the correctness of the derivatives and suggest re-evaluating the differentiation process. Others point out the presence of a maximum at x=0, which contradicts the original poster's findings.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the differentiation process and its implications for identifying critical points and points of inflection. Some have provided guidance on correcting the approach to derivatives, leading to a more accurate understanding of the function's behavior.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the correct application of differentiation rules, particularly the chain rule, and how these affect the identification of critical points and inflection points. Participants are also addressing potential errors in the original poster's interpretation of the function's graph.

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Sketch the following function, showing all work needed to sketch each curve.

y = [tex]\frac{1}{3 + x^2}[/tex]

The question is asking for all the work done to find x and y intercepts, vertical, horizontal and slant asymptotes; critical points and points of inflection, i have completed the question but I'm not sure i did it correctly, any guidance is appreciated. My answer is below:

x - intercept: there are no x - intercepts.
y - intercept: sub x = 0 into the function and you get y = 1/3

there are no vertical asymptotes

horizontal asymptote is y = 0 found by dividing every term in the function by x^2

critical points:
to find the critical points find the first derivative

y1 = -2x [tex]^{-3}[/tex]

= [tex]\frac{-2}{x^-3}[/tex]

y1 can never equal zero therefore there are no max or min.

to find the point of infliction find the second derivative

y11 = 6x [tex]^{-4}[/tex]
= [tex]\frac{6}{x^-4}[/tex]

y11 can never equal zero
for x [tex]\geq[/tex] 0, y11 is negative and for x [tex]\leq[/tex] 0, y11 is positive

I have sketched the graph but not added it here i just would like to check if the work i did to get the sketch of the function is correct!
Thanks A LOT!
I really appreciate it! :D
 
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I don't understand how you found the derivative of y. Check that again, because if you graph the function, you see that there is indeed a maximum at x=0.

EDIT: Same with your second derivative. How exactly are you differentiating these?
 
That is exactly what confused me!
I found the derivatives as follows:


y = [tex]\frac{1}{3+x^2}[/tex]
= 3 + x[tex]^{-2}[/tex]

first derivative
y1 = -2x[tex]^{-3}[/tex]
= [tex]\frac{-2}{x^3}[/tex]

second derivative
y11 = -2x[tex]^{-3}[/tex]
= (-2)(-3)x [tex]^{-4}[/tex]
= 6x [tex]^{-4}[/tex]
= [tex]\frac{6}{x^4}[/tex]

for both of these y cannot equal zero...therefore there are no critical points or points of infliction. however, i too see that there is a max at about (0, 1/3)!
any idea of where i am going wrong!
thanks!
 
lamerali said:
That is exactly what confused me!
I found the derivatives as follows:


y = [tex]\frac{1}{3+x^2}[/tex]
= 3 + x[tex]^{-2}[/tex]
No. [tex]y= (3+ x^2)^{-1}[/tex] You will need to use the chain rule to find the derivative.

first derivative
y1 = -2x[tex]^{-3}[/tex]
= [tex]\frac{-2}{x^3}[/tex]

second derivative
y11 = -2x[tex]^{-3}[/tex]
= (-2)(-3)x [tex]^{-4}[/tex]
= 6x [tex]^{-4}[/tex]
= [tex]\frac{6}{x^4}[/tex]

for both of these y cannot equal zero...therefore there are no critical points or points of infliction. however, i too see that there is a max at about (0, 1/3)!
any idea of where i am going wrong!
thanks!
 
Your line

[tex] y = \frac 1 {3+x^2} = 3+x^{-2}[/tex]

is the source of your error.

Look at what happens for [tex]x = 1[/tex] with your approach
[tex] \frac 1 {3 + 1^1} = 3 + 1^{-1} = 4[/tex]

which is obviously false. Try writing the formula for [tex]y[/tex] with the entire denominator having a negative exponent.
 
YAY! thanks a lot! i think i got it!
for the critical points
the first derivative would be

y1 = [tex]\frac{-2x}{(3+x^2)^2}[/tex]

which is equal to zero when x = 0 forming the point (0, 1/3) which i found to be a max.

for the second derivative and the point of inflection
y11 = [tex]\frac{6x^2 - 6}{(3 + x^2)^3}[/tex]

y11 is equal to zero when x = 1 and x = -1. I found the points of inflection to be (1, 1/4) and (-1, 1/4).

I'm pretty sure this is right i'd just like to make sure!
thank you!
 

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