Slope of Tangent Line at (0,-10) for y^3+1004=(e^x+1)^2

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The problem involves finding the slope of the tangent line to the curve defined by the equation y^3 + 1004 = (e^x + 1)^2 at the point (0, -10). The subject area pertains to calculus, specifically the application of derivatives in relation to implicit differentiation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss methods of differentiation, including implicit differentiation and direct substitution. There are questions about the accuracy of calculations and the use of calculators versus manual computation.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various attempts at calculating the derivative, with some participants confirming a specific answer while others express uncertainty about their calculations. There is a mix of methods being explored, and while some participants assert correctness, no consensus is reached on the process itself.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential issues with plugging in values and the simplicity of calculations at x=0, suggesting that assumptions about the ease of computation may be influencing their approaches.

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Homework Statement


A curve is given by the equation: y^3+1004=(e^x+1)^2
Find the slope of the tangent line at the point (0,-10).


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I took the derivative of ((e^x+1)^2-1004)^(1/3) and that is (2e^x(1+e^x))/(3((1+e^x)^2-1004)^(2/3)) but plugging in 0 for x does not give me the right answer.
 
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I've done it both by implicit differentiation and by your method and the answers both have given me 1/75. You probably just plugged in wrong!
 
Thanks that is the right answer, just didn't get into the calculator right.
 
There's no need for a calculator. Since you're dealing with exponentials and x=0, it is clear that the answer will be simple to solve by hand.

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{2e^x(e^x+1)}{3\left((e^x+1)^2-1004\right)^{2/3}}[/tex]

x=0, [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{2e^0(e^0+1)}{3\left((e^0+1)^2-1004\right)^{2/3}}[/tex]

e^0=1 so this simplifies to [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{4}{3(4-1004)^{2/3}}[/tex]

Now [itex](-1000)^{1/3}=-10[/itex] and [itex](-10)^2=100[/itex] so [itex](4-1004)^{2/3}=100[/itex].
That gets you the answer 1/75 as required, and no need for throwing a messy long expression into the calculator which, as you've seen, can easily lead to errors.
 

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