I So is all energy a function of one of the 4 forces?

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The discussion explores whether all forms of energy are functions of the four fundamental forces in physics. It highlights that while potential and kinetic energy relate to gravity and other forces, there are exceptions, such as the exchange interaction and rest energy. The exchange interaction is noted as a force not mediated by bosons, relevant in quantum mechanics and responsible for contact forces. Additionally, rest energy, which is tied to an object's mass, is not attributed to the four fundamental forces, with the strong force being a significant contributor to mass. The thread concludes with a note on access issues, suggesting participants start new threads for further discussion.
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Just wondering about energy. I find energy and fields the 2 most fascinating parts of physics. Since potential and kinetic energy are functions of gravity (and perhaps other forces I hadn't considered); are all types of energy functions of a force? Or are there also exceptions? Or unknowns? Greatly appreciate some of your usual fine input plus as many pertinent links you have to share.
 
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There is a difference in lingo used between high energy theory and forces in classical mechanics. As far as I'm aware, the "four fundamental forces" refer to the known forces which are believed to be mediated by bosons. In contrast, there are forces in nature which have nothing to do with bosons. Like the exchange interaction, a force which arises when you try to push electrons (or other fermions) into the same state, which would violate the Pauli exclusion principle. Griffiths mentions in passing that there is such a force in solids on page 223 of the 2nd edition of his quantum mechanics text. I believe it is the main mechanism responsible for contact forces, but I don't currently have a source to back me up on that.

Another exception could be rest energy. As far as I know, none of the four fundamental forces are responsible for the energy stored in an object's rest mass.
 
Twigg said:
Another exception could be rest energy. As far as I know, none of the four fundamental forces are responsible for the energy stored in an object's rest mass.
Most of the rest mass of ordinary objects is due to the strong force.

Since the OP is having access issues, we will close this thread for now. If you are curious, you might want to open your own thread.
 
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