Solenoid to fire magnetic ball, question about best core material)

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The discussion focuses on optimizing the performance of a solenoid designed to fire a magnetic ball using different core materials. Participants debate the effectiveness of a soft iron tube versus a thin copper tube as the core material, emphasizing that while an iron core enhances performance in traditional solenoids, its magnetic attraction may hinder the projectile's path. The conversation also touches on the complexities introduced by using a magnetized piston, suggesting that the dynamics of magnetic fields and potential shielding effects must be carefully considered. Ultimately, the consensus indicates that practical experimentation is necessary to determine the best approach.

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So I want to fire a magnetic ball through a solenoid coil but want to know if core material can enhance the performance. Would wire wrapped around soft Iron tube core work better then say a thin copper tube?

The aim is to increase efficiency so less power needs to be used to fire the magnetic ball, and yes I know the ball would be attracted to the Iron.
 
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<puzzled> The iron core will stop the ball from going through the solenoid though.
 
d4rr3n said:
So I want to fire a magnetic ball through a solenoid coil but want to know if core material can enhance the performance. Would wire wrapped around soft Iron tube core work better then say a thin copper tube?

The aim is to increase efficiency so less power needs to be used to fire the magnetic ball, and yes I know the ball would be attracted to the Iron.

What is the context of your question? Why do you want to fire a metal ball?
 
Simon Bridge said:
<puzzled> The iron core will stop the ball from going through the solenoid though.

I clearly said it's a tube, an Iron tube.
 
berkeman said:
What is the context of your question? Why do you want to fire a metal ball?

I don't want to fire a metal ball, I want to fire a magnet
 
d4rr3n said:
I clearly said it's a tube, an Iron tube.
... fair enough: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=75339

What is the context of your question? Why do you want to fire a metal ball?
d4rr3n said:
I don't want to fire a metal ball, I want to fire a magnet
... OK then, What is the context of your question? Why do you want to fire a magnet?
 
Any material that does not hog the magnetic field will help.
 
Hog,you mean shield?

I know that in a standard solenoid an Iron core (tube) improves performance but a solenoid is accelerating an Iron piston, I'm wondering if its accelerating a magnetised piston will this change.
 
Would progressive fields activated by the magnet's position be used or is it one field? The magnet could activate the next propelling field by a ferric trigger. Spacing fields/triggers would take some work but that would be interesting. The dynamics of the unstable rolling magnet will be a problem with the pole being unlocked. Perhaps a sacrificial container jacket for ball on its ride up the pipe to stabilize the pole for magnetic field synch over progressive propulsion fields.
 
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"Hog" as in the iron gathers all the field lines like a partner hogs the blankets.
That's how the shielding effect happens and also how iron slugs help.
Having a megneic piston changes too many variables to comment - you'll have to do it and see.

homemade is talking about linear accelerator design - you don't need triggers though, just a timer.
I believe your original question has been answered.
 

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