Solid Hollow Shaft Torsion Resistance: How Will It Change?

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The discussion focuses on the torsional resistance of a hollow shaft compared to a solid shaft, specifically when the hollow shaft's internal diameter is two-thirds of its external diameter. The key equations referenced include T/J = G * angle of twist/length and the relationship between torsional resistance and polar moment of inertia. It is established that the torsional resistance decreases when transitioning from a hollow to a solid shaft due to the dependence on the polar moment of inertia rather than the cross-sectional area. The participants clarify the importance of the polar moment of inertia in calculating torsional resistance.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of torsional mechanics and shear stress
  • Familiarity with polar moment of inertia calculations
  • Knowledge of the equations governing torsion in shafts
  • Basic principles of material properties, specifically shear modulus (G)
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  • Study the derivation and application of the polar moment of inertia in torsion calculations
  • Learn about the effects of different shaft geometries on torsional resistance
  • Explore the relationship between shear stress and torsional moment in solid and hollow shafts
  • Investigate practical applications of torsional resistance in engineering design
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Mechanical engineers, materials scientists, and students studying torsional mechanics will benefit from this discussion, particularly those involved in the design and analysis of shafts in mechanical systems.

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Homework Statement


internal diameter of a hollow shaft is two third of its external diameter .if it is melted and new solid shaft is made.what would happen to the shaft resistance of torsion. in percentage?

Homework Equations


as i know T/j=G*angle of twist/length.
torsional resistance=G*teta(twist)

The Attempt at a Solution


i have no idea . any help would be appeciable .thanks[/B]
 
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The first step is to determine the relative diameter of the solid shaft. It comprises the same volume of material as for the hollow shaft, so (assuming shafts of identical lengths), how to determine the dimensions of the solid shaft?

Perhaps start by saying: let the outer diameter of the hollow shaft be "D".
 
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ok. i get that . so my area of solid shaft = .55*A(hollow ).. but resistance depends on polar moment of inertia right? .
j(solid)=pi/32(D)4 .if I am not wrong .. then does my shaft resistance decreasce?.
 
Yes, torsional resistance decreases.
 
The torsional resistance is proportional to the cross sectional area, not the polar moment of inertia.

Chet
 
sorry. J represent torsional constant. its the resistance to torsion. I am i correct ? ..or how can i use area here to calculate variation in resistance. bit confued :(
 
praveenpandiyan said:
sorry. J represent torsional constant. its the resistance to torsion. I am i correct ? ..or how can i use area here to calculate variation in resistance. bit confued :(
What does your textbook say?
 
well .torsion for solid shaft , i have torsion eqn T/J=G*tete/L=shear stess/R
but i found finally its torsional stiffness k=T/twist that provide solution. if not i need to do some ground work myself .thanks chester
 
praveenpandiyan said:
well .torsion for solid shaft , i have torsion eqn T/J=G*tete/L=shear stess/R
but i found finally its torsional stiffness k=T/twist that provide solution. if not i need to do some ground work myself .thanks chester
Don't thank me so soon. I was wrong about it. The shear strain in the shaft is rdθ/dz. If you use this to determine the shear stress, and then the torsional moment, you find that it's the polar moment of inertia that is the thing that comes into play (as you said), not the cross sectional area (as I had said). So your were right in the first place. Senior Moment. Sorry about that.

Chet
 
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praveenpandiyan said:
ok. i get that . so my area of solid shaft = .55*A(hollow ).. but resistance depends on polar moment of inertia right? .
j(solid)=pi/32(D)4 .if I am not wrong .. then does my shaft resistance decreasce?.
It seems well covered here: http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/torsion-shafts-d_947.html
 
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yeah thanks Nas.
 

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