Solution to Coupled Second Order ODE's

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The discussion centers on solving two coupled second-order ordinary differential equations (ODEs) and converting them into state space form. The original poster is exploring whether substituting one equation into the other leads to a valid state space representation or if it creates redundancy. Participants confirm that the approach of transforming second-order equations into a system of first-order equations is standard practice. They emphasize that the method being used is a recognized technique for analyzing coupled higher-order ODEs. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding established methods in mathematical problem-solving.
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I'm trying to 'solve' two coupled second order ODE's with the intent of putting them in state space. My specific problem is more complex and includes additional equations which are irrelevant. Essentially I can solve the problem if I know the solution to this. x1 and x2 are time dependent variables and A-H are constant coefficients.

I initially thought I could simply plug x2 into x1's equation to obtain one equation and then x1 into x2's to obtain the other equation. However, I feel like this would create a redundant state space matrix which would be otherwise useless. Really all I need is these two in reduced state space

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This looks like a correct approach. Is there a question?

Incidentally, these are coupled ODEs, not PDEs.

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
Incidentally, these are coupled ODEs, not PDEs.
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I was just wondering if this was a valid approach to state space from two second order equations to four first orders. I appreciate the input and if this is valid then all is well. Thanks! Ah yes , most definitely ODE's, I must have mis-typed the 'O'... twice.
 
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I was just wondering if this was a valid approach to state space from two second order equations to four first orders. I appreciate the input and if this is valid then all is well. Thanks! Ah yes , most definitely ODE's, I must have mis-typed the 'O'... twice.
You should be made aware that there is a standard way of analytically solving a set of linear coupled first order ODEs like this.

You should also be made aware that the method you so cleverly developed so far (no sarcasm intended) is also a standard method of analyzing coupled higher order ODEs. Welcome to the world of "reinventing the wheel." I've personally visited that world lots of times.

Chet
 
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