Solve Connected Blocks Problems: Magnitude of Force & Tension Calculations

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The discussion revolves around two physics problems involving connected blocks on a frictionless surface. The first question asks for the force exerted by an 8.2kg block on a 2.2kg block, with participants suggesting the use of Newton's laws and free body diagrams to analyze the forces. The second question involves calculating the tension T1 in a system of three connected blocks, prompting discussions on net external forces and acceleration. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the relationship between calculated forces and the specific forces being asked for in the problems. Overall, the thread highlights the challenges of applying Newton's laws to connected block systems.
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Connected Blocks HeLP!

I have two questions reguarding connected blocks (that are driving me crazy):
1. Two blocks in contact with each other move to the right across a horizontal surface(frictionless). Determine the magnituede of the force exerted on the 2.2kg block by the 8.2kg block.

--81N-->[2.2kg][8.2kg]<--13N--


2. Three blocks are on a frictionless horizontal surface. The blocks are connected by strings (massless) with tensions T1 and T2. Calculate tension T1

<--9.2--[3kg]--T1--[1kg]--T2--[5kg]--38N-->

ANY help with either one of these questions is greatly appreciated...i have tried a few times with both of the problems and i don't have many tires left on the homework server :cry:

Thank you,
Sergio
 
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S_fabris said:
I have two questions reguarding connected blocks (that are driving me crazy):
1. Two blocks in contact with each other move to the right across a horizontal surface(frictionless). Determine the magnituede of the force exerted on the 2.2kg block by the 8.2kg block.

--81N-->[2.2kg][8.2kg]<--13N--


2. Three blocks are on a frictionless horizontal surface. The blocks are connected by strings (massless) with tensions T1 and T2. Calculate tension T1

<--9.2--[3kg]--T1--[1kg]--T2--[5kg]--38N-->

ANY help with either one of these questions is greatly appreciated...i have tried a few times with both of the problems and i don't have many tires left on the homework server :cry:

Thank you,
Sergio
Look at the entire system. What is the NET external force acting on the system of blocks? What does Newton's 2nd law say about the acceleration of the system of blocks? Will each individual block accelerate at that same rate? Examine the forces acting on each of the blocks separately in a free body diagram. What is the magnitude and direction of the contact or tension force between the blocks? Does Newton's 3rd law come into play here?
 
well for the first problem...i tried 81N-63N for the total force exerted on bloc and found the acceleration by adding the masses. then i used that acceleration multiplied by 8.2kg to find the force (got 53.63N) but that's wrong. I did take into consideration all the things you have said and I am still stuck...perhaps helping me by suggesting an equation (all the ones i have tried have failed)
 
S_fabris said:
well for the first problem...i tried 81N-63N for the total force exerted on bloc and found the acceleration by adding the masses. then i used that acceleration multiplied by 8.2kg to find the force (got 53.63N) but that's wrong. I did take into consideration all the things you have said and I am still stuck...perhaps helping me by suggesting an equation (all the ones i have tried have failed)
Is that red 63 supposed to be 13? That's what you had in youur first post. The 53.63N is not wrong, it's just not the force you were asked to find. Think about what you calculated and how it is related to what you were asked to find.
 
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