Solve for Block Speed After 3m: F=50s^2, u=.3, v=2m/s

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The problem involves determining the speed of a block after it slides a distance of 3 meters under the influence of a varying force and friction. The force is given as F = 50s², with the block initially moving at 2 m/s and a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.3.

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  • Participants discuss the components of force acting on the block and the role of friction. There are attempts to apply different methods, including integration and the work-energy principle, to find the final speed. Questions arise regarding the incorporation of initial velocity and the meaning of certain terms in the equations presented.

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Some participants have provided calculations and results, while others have raised concerns about the validity of those approaches. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to solve the problem, with no explicit consensus reached on the best approach.

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Participants note the need to clarify the meaning of certain variables and the implications of the problem's setup, including the initial conditions and the nature of the forces involved.

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Homework Statement



The force F, acting in a constant direction on the 20 kg block has a magnitude which varies with position s of the block. Determine the speed of the block after it slides 3 m. When s=0 the block is moving to the right at 2 m/s. The coefficient of kinetic friction is .3
F = 50s^2 and pushes on the crate from the hypot of a 3,4,5 triangle.


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I found the x,y components of force to be Fx = 40s^2, Fy = 30s^2
I found the Normal to be 30s^2 + 196.2 which i multiplied by u=.3 to get a frictional force in the oposite direction of 9s^2+58.86

I do not understand how to incorporate the initial velocity of 2 m/s, nore do i kow what equations to use. My book seems to hint at .5mv^2+Ps-uNs=.5mv^2 but i do not know what P is. Please help
 
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Find net Fx.
You can write f = dv/dt = dv/ds*ds/dt = v*dv/ds
So along x-axis v*dv = [40s^2 - ( 9s^2+58.86)]ds
Find the integration. To find the constant of integration c, use the condition , when s = 0 v= 2 m/s. Then to get the required answer put s = 3 m.
 
Hey thanks a lot. I am pretty sure i got it but could u double check.

ok so i integrated and c=2, i pluged it in and solved for v

v=((80/3)s^3-6s^3-117.72s+2)^1/2 @ s=3, v=14.38 m/s

let me know how i did
 
Your answer is correct.
 
Forgive me if I'm incorrect, but as I understand it that is the incorrect approach.

I believe the hint you described suggests that this problem should be solved using the work-energy relationship.

the first .5mv^2 refers to initial kinetic energy or ΣT(1) [this is where you use the initial velocity]
Ps-UNs refers to the change in work; P being the applied force (Fx), U being coefficient of friction, and s being displacement, or [ΣU(1-2)]
the last .5mv^2 refers to final kinetic energy, or ΣT(2)

I found a different final velocity using this method.
good luck!
 
Hi INTJ BSME, welcome to PF.
Show your calculations.
 

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