Solve for g(8) and g'(8) in f(g(x)) = x using the Chain Rule

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The discussion revolves around finding the values of g(8) and g'(8) given the equation f(g(x)) = x, where f(3) = 8 and f'(3) = 9. The participants are exploring the implications of the chain rule in this context.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between f(g(8)) and the value of g(8), with one asserting that g(8) must equal 3. There is uncertainty about how to derive g'(x), with attempts to apply the chain rule and questions about the correctness of their reasoning.

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The discussion is active, with participants questioning their understanding of the chain rule and its application. Some have provided clarifications regarding the derivative of x, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to finding g'(8).

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Participants are grappling with the application of the chain rule and the definitions of derivatives, indicating a potential gap in understanding the foundational concepts involved.

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ok so f(g(x)) = x, for all x.

f(3)=8
f'(3)=9

what are the values of g(8) and g'(8)

ok, so g(8) = 3

because f(g(8)) must equal 8, and f(3) = 8, so g(x) must equal three.

however, i have NO idea how to do g'(x)

i was thinking of using the chain rule, but this gets me nowhere..help!

f'(g(x))*g'(x) = 8 ?? is this correct?? then wouldn't g'(x) = 1 ??
 
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fiziksfun said:
ok so f(g(x)) = x, for all x.

f(3)=8
f'(3)=9

what are the values of g(8) and g'(8)

ok, so g(8) = 3

because f(g(8)) must equal 8, and f(3) = 8, so g(x) must equal three.

however, i have NO idea how to do g'(x)

i was thinking of using the product rule, but this gets me nowhere..help!

f'(g(x))*g'(x) = 8 ?? is this correct?? then wouldn't g'(x) = 1 ??

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What fiziksfun wrote in his last line is the chain rule, not the product rule.
If (f(g(x))= x then f'(g(x))*g'(x)= (x)'= 1, not 8.
 
the chain rule doesn't get me anywhere :[
 
how do you know (x)' is equal to 1 ?
 
Yea, I saw product rule in his post and just skipped over the symbols.
 
oh wait, is it because d/dx(x) = 1 ?? YAY!
 
Wow, that was fast!

I must admit that when you asked how I knew that the derivative of x was 1, I started to reach for my 2 by 4!
 

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