Solve for Impact Speed of 0.25kg Pine Cone Falling 20m

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A 0.25 kg pine cone falling from a height of 20 meters will hit the ground at a speed of approximately 6.9 m/s when air resistance is ignored, calculated using potential and kinetic energy equations. The initial potential energy was correctly calculated as 49 J, leading to the correct kinetic energy equation. The user expressed confusion regarding their calculations and whether they were correct, particularly in determining the potential energy. In part B, the discussion shifts to calculating the average force of air resistance when the pine cone hits the ground at 9.0 m/s, suggesting that air resistance would indeed reduce the speed compared to free fall. The conversation highlights the importance of careful algebraic manipulation in physics calculations.
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A 0.25 kg pine cone falls from a branch 20 meters above the ground.

a) What speed would it hit the ground if the air resistance could be ignored?

I am not too sure how to do this but this is what I've got so far:

m=0.25
g=9.8 m/s^2
F=2.45 J
h=20 m

Ep=(0.25kg)(9.8m/s)(20m) Ek=1/2mv^2
=4.9J 4.9J=1/2(0.25kg)(v^2)
2(4.9J=1/2(0.25kg)(v^2))
9.8J=(0.25kg)(2v^2)
-0.25 -0.25
9.55J=2v^2
------------
2
4.775 = v^2
root 4.775 = 2.2 m/s = v ?

is this even close to correct. I think I am doing something wrong
 
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right method...check your calculations
 
I am also not sure in my calculation of Potential Energy wether
Ep=(0.25kg)(9.8m/s^2)(20m)
= 4.9 or 49
 
get_rekd said:
A 0.25 kg pine cone falls from a branch 20 meters above the ground.

a) What speed would it hit the ground if the air resistance could be ignored?

I am not too sure how to do this but this is what I've got so far:

m=0.25
g=9.8 m/s^2
F=2.45 J
h=20 m

Ep=(0.25kg)(9.8m/s)(20m) Ek=1/2mv^2
=4.9J 4.9J=1/2(0.25kg)(v^2)
2(4.9J=1/2(0.25kg)(v^2))
9.8J=(0.25kg)(2v^2)
-0.25 -0.25
9.55J=2v^2
------------
2
4.775 = v^2
root 4.775 = 2.2 m/s = v ?

is this even close to correct. I think I am doing something wrong

Ep=(0.25kg)(9.8m/s)(20m) Ek=1/2mv^2
=49J 49J=1/2(0.25kg)(v^2)
2(4.9J=1/2(0.25kg)(v^2))
98J=(0.25kg)(2v^2)
-0.25 -0.25
97.75J=2v^2
------------
2
48.87 = v^2
root 48.87 = 6.9 m/s = v ?
Would this be correct then?
 
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looks good...answer makes more sense
 
Thanks a lot!
 
So there is a part B to the problem:

If it actually hits the ground with a speed of 9.0 m/s, what was the average force of air resistance on it?

Since I got a velocity of 6.9 m/s with 0 air resistance in the first part of the problem wouldn't there be some force accelerating this cone in this part? Because a falling cone with air resistance should hit the ground slower than a cone with no air resistance?
 
watch your algebra in part (a)
 
Is it still wrong? I cannot seem to find where I made a mistake? Which section of the calculation?
 
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