Solve for θ and Time: Projecting a Particle at 30 m/s

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The problem involves a particle projected at 30 m/s from the foot of an inclined plane at 30 degrees to the horizontal. The objective is to determine the angle of projection θ and the time taken for the particle to hit the plane perpendicularly.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to solve the problem by using the equations of motion and the relationship between the coordinates at the point of impact. They express concerns about the validity of their calculated angle of -60 degrees.
  • Some participants question the relationships used, particularly regarding the ratios of the coordinates and the implications of the angle of impact.
  • There is a suggestion to show full workings to identify any errors in the calculations.
  • One participant confirms that the approach of substituting the equations into the coordinate relationships is correct.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and verifying the calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the angle found, and participants are encouraging the original poster to clarify their workings.

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The original poster mentions constraints related to time for posting a full solution due to other study commitments, which may affect the depth of their contributions.

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Homework Statement



A particle is projected at 30 m/s from the foot of a plane which is inclined at 30o to the horizontal. The particle hits the plane at an angle perpendicular to the plane.
Find the value of the angle of projection θ and the time taken to reach there.

Homework Equations



x=30tcosθ , and y=30tsinθ-5t^2 , where (x,y) are the coordinates of the point of impact and θ is the angle of projection, inclined with the horizontal.

The Attempt at a Solution



Here is a diagram: http://i.imgur.com/FfTwTD7.png
So if the projected particle hits the hill at 90o then y/x=1/√3 and the velocity will be at 120o to the horizontal so y'/x'=-√3
I solved these two equations simultaneously and I got θ=-60 but this looks wrong because it doesn't make sense.
Please help :)
 
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hi |mathematix|! :smile:
|mathematix| said:
So if the projected particle hits the hill at 90o then x/y=1/√3 and the velocity will be at 120o to the horizontal so x'/y'=-√3

shouldn't |y'| be larger than |x'| ? :confused:
 
Yes, I fixed it :(
 
is your answer ok now? :confused:

if not, show us your full working, so we can see what went wrong :smile:
 
I did the working using the correct values but I got -60 degree for theta. I can't post the full solution now because it would take time and I have to study english now so I will re do it and see if I get a better answer.
I basically substituted the equations of motion into y/x=1/√3 and y'/x'=-√3 and then solved them simultaneously, found theta and substituted back to find the time, is that the correct approach?
 
|mathematix| said:
I basically substituted the equations of motion into y/x=1/√3 and y'/x'=-√3 and then solved them simultaneously, found theta and substituted back to find the time, is that the correct approach?

yes! :smile:
 

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