Projectile motion after a flying helical path

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The problem involves analyzing the motion of a bird that flew along a helical path described by the function r(t)=<5cost,5sint,2t>. The discussion centers on determining where the bird would land on the xy-plane after it died at t=10 seconds, considering gravitational effects.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the bird's position and velocity at t=10 seconds, using the position function and its derivative. They question the relevance of the angle of projection in this context and seek clarification on how to find it.

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Some participants provide feedback on the calculations, suggesting that there may be errors in the execution of the original poster's approach, particularly regarding the x and y coordinates. They emphasize the importance of careful calculation and estimation. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the approach, but guidance has been offered regarding potential errors.

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The discussion highlights potential decimal point errors and the need for careful calculation, but does not resolve the underlying assumptions about the angle of projection or the implications of the helical path on the motion analysis.

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Homework Statement


A bird flew along a helical path r(t)=&lt;5cost,5sint,2t&gt;, at time t=10 second, the bird died instantly. where did it hit the xy-plane ? g=32 ft/s/s.

Homework Equations


r(t)=(v_0 \cos\theta t) i+(v_0 \sin\theta t - 0.5gt^2 + h_0) j

The Attempt at a Solution


taking derivative of r(t), I got the velocity function respect to t, v(t)=&lt;-5sint,5cost,2&gt;
at t=10 s, we are located at (-4.2, -2.7, 20)
so that means the velocity in the x-direction at time =10 seconds is 2.72 ft/s
and the velocity in the y-direction at t=10 s = -4.2 ft/s
to hit the ground means that the distance in Z direction is 0, setting 0=z(10)+v_z(10) t - 16t^2
velocity in z direction is constant= 2
we can find the time the bird hit the ground, which = 1.18 second.
now, plug t and velocity in the x-direction into X_f=x(10)+v_x(10) t, we can find x-axis distance=-9.9 ft
Y_f=y(10)+v_y(10) t similarly, we can find y - coordinate= -76.56 ft ( this value seems way off)

i am confused, does angle of projection matters in this case? if does, how do we find the angle of projection?
 
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X_f=x(10)+v_x(10) t
= -4.2 + 2.7 * 1.18 ## can never be -9.9 ft !
For y you simply have a decimal point error, I'd guess: ##\ -2.7 - 1.18 * 4.2 = -7.7##

Always estimate the answer when using a calculator or a spreadsheet.

And I wouldn't round off before I had the answer.
 
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BvU said:
##
X_f=x(10)+v_x(10) t
= -4.2 + 2.7 * 1.18 ## can never be -9.9 ft !
For y you simply have a decimal point error, I'd guess: ##\ -2.7 - 1.18 * 4.2 = -7.7##

Always estimate the answer when using a calculator or a spreadsheet.

And I wouldn't round off before I had the answer.
so my approach was correct? thank you
 
qq545282501 said:
so my approach was correct? thank you
Approach was correct, execution a bit sloppy. And: You're welcome.
 

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