Solve for x: Log x + (Log x)^2=0

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation log x + (log x)^2 = 0, with participants exploring the implications of this equation and its solutions. The subject area includes logarithmic functions and quadratic equations.

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the equation as a quadratic in log x and consider factoring it. There is confusion regarding the solutions, particularly the values of x = 1 and x = 16, and whether both can be valid solutions. Some participants question the assumptions about the base of the logarithm being used.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing guidance on factoring and interpreting the equation. There is recognition of multiple interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the logarithmic base and the validity of certain solutions.

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Participants note the confusion stemming from the transition between different equations and the implications of the logarithmic properties. There is a mention of a potential misunderstanding regarding the base of the logarithm, which affects the interpretation of the solutions.

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log x + (log x)^2 = o

It is very unclear to me how to solve this. I have managed to find x = 1, but cannot find x = 1/10. Also I have no idea if i am doing it right. How do i solve for x?

By log x i mean the common log
 
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This is a quadratic in log x. Further, there is no constant term in this quadratic, so it can be factored.
 
log4 x2 = (log4 x) 2

why does log4 x = 0

i have found that the x = 16, but i am confused of why x also is 1?
 
Where did you get log4 with base 4? If one of the answers is 1/10 as you gave in your first post, you're working with log10 with base 10. Try factoring the left hand side of the equation.
 
FatLouieXVI said:
log4 x2 = (log4 x) 2

why does log4 x = 0

i have found that the x = 16, but i am confused of why x also is 1?
[itex]log_4(x^2)= 2 log_4(x)[/itex] so your equation is the same as [itex]2log_4(x)= log_4(x)[/itex]. Subtracting [itex]log_4(x)[/itex] from both sides, you get [itex]log_4(x)= 0[/itex] which has x= 1 as its only solution.

x= 16 is NOT a solution. [itex]16= 4^2[/itex] so [itex]16^2= (4^2)^2= 4^4[/itex]. [itex]log_4(16^2)= 4[/itex] while [itex]log_4(16)= 2[/itex]. They are NOT equal.

Did you mean [itex](log_4(x))^2= log_4(x)[/itex]? You can write that as [itex](log_4(x))^2- log_4(x)= log_4(x)(log_4(x)- 1)= 0[/itex]. Then either [itex]log_4(x)= 0[/itex], with gives x= 1, or [itex]log_4(x)- 1= 0[/itex] so that [itex]log_4(x)= 1[/itex] and x= 4. But x= 16 is still not a solution.
 
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sorry to clarify it is a whole new equation. The second post helped me figure the original equation out. My fault for not saying its a new equation
 
FatLouieXVI said:
log4 x2 = (log4 x) 2

why does log4 x = 0

i have found that the x = 16, but i am confused of why x also is 1?

HallsofIvy said:
[itex]log_4(x^2)= 2 log_4(x)[/itex] so your equation is the same as [itex]2log_4(x)= log_4(x)[/itex]. Subtracting [itex]log_4(x)[/itex] from both sides, you get [itex]log_4(x)= 0[/itex] which has x= 1 as its only solution.

x= 16 is NOT a solution. [itex]16= 4^2[/itex] so [itex]16^2= (4^2)^2= 4^4[/itex]. [itex]log_4(16^2)= 4[itex]while [itex]log_4(16)= 2[/itex]. They are NOT equal.<br /> <br /> Did you mean [itex](log_4(x))^2= log_4(x)[/itex]? You can write that as [itex](log_4(x))^2- log_4(x)= log_4(x)(log_4(x)- 1)= 0[/itex]. Then <b>either</b> [itex]log_4(x)= 0[/itex], with gives x= 1, or [itex]log_4(x)- 1= 0[/itex] so that [itex]log_4(x)= 1[/itex] and x= 4. But x= 16 is still not a solution.[/itex][/itex]
[itex][itex] <br /> x = 16 <i>is</i> a solution of [itex]\log_4(x^2) = (\log_4 x)^2.[/itex] Both sides equal 4.<br /> <br /> HallsofIvy's comment though gives the hint for turning this into a (factorable) quadratic equation in log<sub>4</sub><i>x</i> which has 2 solutions, namely 1 and 16.<br /> <br /> --Elucidus[/itex][/itex]
 
Ah, I missed the square on the x on the left side! I need to get my eyes examined!
 

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