Solve Force and Impulse Homework: Speed of Tennis Ball After Collision

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of a tennis ball after it collides with a wall, given its initial velocity and the force-time graph during the collision. The initial momentum is calculated as 5.4576 N*m, and the impulse is derived from the area under the force-time graph, totaling 10.2. Participants clarify that the impulse should be considered negative since it acts opposite to the ball's motion. The correct approach involves adjusting the impulse in the momentum equation to find the final velocity. The final calculations lead to confusion about the correct value, emphasizing the importance of understanding impulse direction in collision problems.
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Homework Statement



The Figure shows an approximate representation of the contact force versus time during the collision of a 36-g tennis ball with a wall. The initial velocity of the ball is 151.6 m/s perpendicular to the wall. What is the speed of the tennis ball after the collision?

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P = mv

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I did find 3 Area in the pic the add them up. I got 10200 total, then what's next?
Any help would be appreciated! ;)
 
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P0 + J = Pf
 
P(0) = (36/1000) * 151.6 = 5.4576 N*m

Pf = (36/1000) * vf with Pf = total of 3 Areas, correct?
 
huybinhs said:
P(0) = (36/1000) * 151.6 = 5.4576 N*m

Pf = (36/1000) * vf with Pf = total of 3 Areas, correct?

No, in the equation I told you, J represents the area of the figure. Do you see why?
 
so P(0) = (36/1000) * 151.6 = 5.4576 N*m

then 5.4576 + 10200 = (36/1000) vf => vf = 2.83 * 10^5 m/s, right?
 
huybinhs said:
so P(0) = (36/1000) * 151.6 = 5.4576 N*m

then 5.4576 + 10200 = (36/1000) vf => vf = 2.83 * 10^5 m/s, right?

Time in the graph is given in milliseconds (ms).
 
If so 10200 will be = 10.2

=> 5.4576 + 10.2 = (36/1000) vf => vf = 435 m/s Wrong! Why?
 
huybinhs said:
If so 10200 will be = 10.2

=> 5.4576 + 10.2 = (36/1000) vf => vf = 435 m/s Wrong! Why?

Does the force act on the same direction as the motion?
 
so u mean J in this case is just = 9 ?
 
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huybinhs said:
so u mean J in this case is just = 9 ?

I mean it's negative, and where did you get 9?
 
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so I got the 1st area = 0.5 * 0.002 * 1200 = 1.2

2nd = 0.007 * 1200 = 8.4

3rd = 0.001 * 0.5 * 1200 = 0.6

so now why should i do? please be more specific!
 
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huybinhs said:
so I got the 1st area = 0.5 * 0.002 * 1200 = 1.2

2nd = 0.007 * 1200 = 8.4

3rd = 0.001 * 0.5 * 1200 = 0.6

so now why should i do? please be more specific!

add the 3 = 10.2

I'm saying that since the force of the wall is acting opposite of the motion, then maybe the impulse should be negative (-10.2)
 
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Got it! Thanks for your patience ;)
 
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huybinhs said:
Got it! Thanks for your patience ;)

You're most welcome :approve:
 
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